'07 Mso ?
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Vermont reg is an option, I called VT DMV and talked to them directly. I just need to be "enduro legal", not fullly legal and inspected as that is impossible here.
CACTUSREID
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Glenn: are you going to plate/street legal your new bike?
GMP
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Yes and no. Technically, you should be fully legal for entering enduros in NJ because you will be on state land and use some public roads. Practically, there is no way you will get an EC250 to that point including inspection. So, what we do here is get insurance, registration and plate. (in NJ we can get a plate first then inspect). At the events signup, you show your reg and ins. ID, at tech they check your plate. Your good to go, or "enduro legal". There is never a problem, as long as you are cool and don't speed on the street or do something stupid. The cops are cool and generally enjoy the day as well. This is common knowledge and has been this way for years. Also, if I get caught on the street near my house, I could just get a couple tickets if the cop is a BB, and not have my bike impounded.
= Ball buster
GMP
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Yes, like I said, my new '07 MSO is clean AND the VIN is conforming to standard. The latest shipment of bikes are like this is what I'm told. I ran it through a VIN decoding tool and it checked out. Last year this bike would go through NJ DMV with ease, this year it may be a problem. All bikes that are not OEM street legal are black listed, despite the fact that the the MSO does not say "Off Road Only". This is a NJ thing so you probably will be fine. If this bike doesn't go through in Kansas nothing else will except a true dual sport.
bobr
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'the VIN is conforming to standard" Does this mean the VIN is recognized by the Federal system? Last time I was involved the bikes were imported as "race" bikes and didn't have to have a "recognized' VIN such as a vehicle that complied with Federal standards would have. That's where the problem arose. I spoke with a gentlemen from the NSTB, the Federal Dept. that handles the importation of vehicles, and I was told they are running out of "recognized VIN numbers and any bike imported that was up to snuff on the federal requirements would have to have an "unrecognized" numbers.
He explained the Gas-Gas's, at that time, were in fact imported as off road race vehicles and their VIN's were in compliance. IE-yz's, rm's, cr's and any off road bike not complying with federal standards as an "on-road" vehicle would have to have an unrecognized VIN. Most of the Japanese MXer's have recognized VIN's.
He also explained that a new computer system was being initiated nation wide that "sniffs" out the non complying VIN's. I saw this happening in NH. It used to be really easy to title "off road" bikes here. That now is changing just as it was explained to me.
He explained the Gas-Gas's, at that time, were in fact imported as off road race vehicles and their VIN's were in compliance. IE-yz's, rm's, cr's and any off road bike not complying with federal standards as an "on-road" vehicle would have to have an unrecognized VIN. Most of the Japanese MXer's have recognized VIN's.
He also explained that a new computer system was being initiated nation wide that "sniffs" out the non complying VIN's. I saw this happening in NH. It used to be really easy to title "off road" bikes here. That now is changing just as it was explained to me.
GMP
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Bob,
Yes, the VIN on my bike is up to standard. In the past, I registered three other GGS with non-conforming VINs. All that was neccessary was proof the VIN existed on the machine (photo). Now the system here (and maybe elsewhere) knows that a GasGas EC is not approved for street use in the USA. Its a simple list in a database somewhere. I'll find out next week and let you know.
Yes, the VIN on my bike is up to standard. In the past, I registered three other GGS with non-conforming VINs. All that was neccessary was proof the VIN existed on the machine (photo). Now the system here (and maybe elsewhere) knows that a GasGas EC is not approved for street use in the USA. Its a simple list in a database somewhere. I'll find out next week and let you know.
So, Vermont it is.That stinks!
Let us know how the Vermont route goes.
Here in Wa they assume you own the motorcycle and check to make sure the state the motorcycle is registered in matches the state on your drivers license.
They even go so far as to tow street licensed motorcycles that are ridden by people without a motorcycle endorsement on their drivers license.
Let us know how the Vermont route goes.
Here in Wa they assume you own the motorcycle and check to make sure the state the motorcycle is registered in matches the state on your drivers license.
They even go so far as to tow street licensed motorcycles that are ridden by people without a motorcycle endorsement on their drivers license.
GMP
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Eric, this is only for entering enduros. By NJ law, you must have your vehicles registered and inspected in NJ if you reside in NJ. If you move here(why would you
) you have something like a month to transfer.
This is just another way NJ is systematicly trying to eliminate enduros as we know them in the state. First you require a plate to enter,and then you make the plate impossible to get for all but a handfull of race worthy DS bikes.
) you have something like a month to transfer. This is just another way NJ is systematicly trying to eliminate enduros as we know them in the state. First you require a plate to enter,and then you make the plate impossible to get for all but a handfull of race worthy DS bikes.
