2013 300E (US version) - question on GasGas turn signals, plate light, horn

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nplasson

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Hi,

Just picked up a 2013 300E and will setting up to be street legal for traveling between trails. Utah requires horn, turn signals, and plate light. I have purchased a SICASS kit but doesn't look like it is going to match up as well as I had hoped. So the question is has anyone installed original GasGas horn, plate light, and turn signals on this model? Does the stock wiring harness support (I am still taking a part to see what is there) or do I need a euro harness for those connections?

Any help appreciated.

Best regards,

Ned
 
also has anyone been able to get these parts from gofasters I do I need to go through someone like motocrosscenter.com?

Thanx again,

Ned
 
You might be able to find someone in Canada willing to part with theirs.

What about the Sicass kit didn't work out for you? It should have been a no-brainer with a bike with a battery already installed.
 
US wiring won't have wires for plate light or turn signals. The Sicass kit may seem intimidating at first but really they are pretty straight forward. I don't think you will have any problems.
 
I have the electric start wire harness and it has wiring provisions for all lights. You will need an ac/dc rectifier for the horn and a blinker relay for the signals (I think), but if you have e-start you should have wires front and rear to support the lights.

When you pull the seat, you should have a small bundle for the rear lights, and there are two wires under the fuel tank for the horn. I would assume some of the rat's nest behind the plate will support the front blinkers.
 
Thanx for the info pscook, coop, and twowheels. It looks like my harness is slightly different that pscook's. The harness does have an additional connector at the taillight that might be for either turn signals or plate light. I suspect plate light. Regarding the SICASS kit I purchased their kit for a gasgas (2010-2012) hoping that it would work for a 2013 E start and be an easy plug an play. They did mention that they had not yet seen a 2013 so there could be differences. So far I have identified differences in the stock light switch connector as well as the rear fender extension for taillight and plate. Mounting option for the front turn signals is also different as the 2013 headlight plastics do not have enough plastic for mounting. I will likely have to work out the differences with them and I am happy to help get a kit sorted out for a 2013 E start. It is a really nice kit otherwise. I was just seeing if anyone on the forum had experience with any other options (like the non-US spec harness and signals, etc.).
 
I bought the OEM turn signals from Go Fasters for my 2007. Fitted up perfectly to the headlight an taillight. I had to build my own wiring harness.
 
thanx super_rat for the useful info! I have shipped my harness back to SICASS Racing and hope to get the mods done. I will check out gofasters.
 
nplasson said:
Thanx for the info pscook, coop, and twowheels. It looks like my harness is slightly different that pscook's. The harness does have an additional connector at the taillight that might be for either turn signals or plate light. I suspect plate light. Regarding the SICASS kit I purchased their kit for a gasgas (2010-2012) hoping that it would work for a 2013 E start and be an easy plug an play. They did mention that they had not yet seen a 2013 so there could be differences. So far I have identified differences in the stock light switch connector as well as the rear fender extension for taillight and plate. Mounting option for the front turn signals is also different as the 2013 headlight plastics do not have enough plastic for mounting. I will likely have to work out the differences with them and I am happy to help get a kit sorted out for a 2013 E start. It is a really nice kit otherwise. I was just seeing if anyone on the forum had experience with any other options (like the non-US spec harness and signals, etc.).
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I have a 2011 EC300 E Start. I ordered the oem GasGas rear fender brake light and turn signals from motocross center. Everything was simple plug and play. The oem rear fender extension comes with a brake light and turn signals, mine fit perfectly and plugged into the existed wiring harness that was doubled up on the side of the airbox. The front turn signals don't mount to the headlight, they mount to the fork tube using a rubber ring and a plastic clip. My front turn signals plugged directly into the existing wiring harness. It was simple.
 
This is a shot of the rear fender extension with the integrated turn signals, brake light and tag light. It was only like 45 dollars from motocross center and it was straight plug and play.

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Moto, do you know if this stuff fits a 2013? I'll like to "legalize" my bike with OEM parts. Did you have part numbers?
 
I'm not sure about your 2013. If your 2013 was an estart I would say yes. All my parts were oem. If you call Motocross Center ask for Antonio, he selected all the parts. Just make sure that you request oem. My conversion was simple plug and play. It consisted of two front turn signals, horn, and the rear fender extension which included turn signals, tag light,brake light. That is it. All the oem conectors plunged into the stock wiring harness. The various plugs were sized to match the connectors in the wiring harness.

Worst case scenario you may have to buy a wiring harness or extension with a few extra parts.
 
my 2013 300 estart does not have a harness with the additional connectors for turn signals (does have plate light connector though) so ou may need a different harness as well
 
Ok so this has been a journey.... I will post all the details once I get things sorted out but short story is Sicass plug and play kit did not match up with a 2013 300 E-Start. So being that I am electrically challenged and was hoping or a plug and play option I decided to get some stuff from GoFasters. Well the auxiliary harness for turn signals doesn't seem to match up with my stock main harness... nor does the 2013 control... so I have decided to create my own auxiliary harness (recall I am electrically challenged). So in my first attempt I am taking power straight off the battery and grounding back to battery. I do have working lights (high and low beams) and horn working (used a Tusk universal control). Turn signals come on but will not blink. I am using stock GasGs turn signals as well as my stock headlight. My question is... when I come off the battery then go to the flasher relay (it is a GasGas Leonelli flasher) do I need a regulator somewhere ? From the flasher relay I go directly to the signal controls and then to the turn signals themselves. All grounds are tied together and back to battery. I am trying to determine if the flasher is bad or does it need a regulator since I am bypassing the existing main harness? Or am I missing something else? Any way any suggestions or guidance appreciated. I was pretty happy to get working lights and horn but turn signals are driving me crazy.
Thanx,
Ned
 
Try hooking up the battery + flasher + one pair of signal lights. This should let you verify that the flasher works. You might need to experiment with the flasher connections. Usually power goes to the flasher then to the turn signal switch. Each switch position directs power out to the specific pair of turn lamps.

Simple flashers are bimetallic devices that heat up when the bulbs draw current. Once the device heats up, the contact springs apart. Then cooling takes place until the contact makes again. Electronic types are more involved.

I didn't mount signals on my bike, so I don't have any specific info. How many terminals are on the flasher? 2 terminal units are basic, 3 terminal units have an internal relay. Keep in mind that most flashers require a defined load to function at the right speed. LED bulbs often need a resistor added so there is enough draw to make the flasher work.

No need for a regulator or other device; you've got battery voltage.
 
Thank you Neil for the quick reply. And thank you for confirming no need of regulator. The flasher relay is a 3 prong relay (and I believe based on the diagram for the model I found online that there is power in, power out to turn signal control, and ground). So I go from battery to fuse to flasher to control switch to signals. I did disconnect one set (rear) of signals and still same situation - lights go on but don't flash. The turn signals are not LED. I am going to double check that the bulbs are correct and that the ground connection in the signals look good. I was thinking it was the relay but it is brand new (of course it could be bad from factory). I did purchase a generic 12v 8-23w 3 prong. I have tried it but I am blowing fuses as soon as I connect with that flasher. Either it is not a compatible flasher or I may have things connected incorrectly (as mentioned electrical is not a strong skill of mine) although the diagrams I can find for this cheap flasher lead me to believe I have the in and out power correct. I will re-check all connections in the AM to see if I have something mixed up. Any other thoughts?
 
There are a few types of 3 prong flashers. It's the larger electronic ones that have the internal relay. Let's assume you've got a simple 3 prong style. Are the terminals labeled? The more common unit has X, L and P markings (as opposed to X, L and L). The important terminals are the X and L.

X goes to the 12v supply and L goes to the load through the turn signal switch. Look at the attached diagram. The P terminal is for a dash indicator which you don't necessarily need. Can you find a manufacturer's circuit diagram specific to the flasher you have?
 

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I did purchase a generic 12v 8-23w 3 prong. I have tried it but I am blowing fuses as soon as I connect with that flasher.
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I don't see any reason to ground a flasher terminal (basic type of flasher). In my experience a ground is only used on an external relay driven by a flasher. This is for heavy trucks where a relay is needed to carry the large load of many bulbs.
 
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