Enduro 360 First Look of the Sherco 300I
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Steve,
I agree it does sound like it might fit the bill. Clay's son seems to go really good on one too. I know Jeff has always said he wanted a modern long stroke motor and this may be it. I never saw one, but did see an older 450 up close at the Rattlesnake enduro a few years ago. They seem to have very few issues, you get the impression that R&D and prototype testing were very well done and the production bikes are ready to go with no BS. I'd like to see how the parts distribution takes shape before any consideration though.
That new Yamaha 250f is an interesting bike. I love the compact layout, no pipe exposed, and short muffler. Not much to break in the rocks. Even the seat height spec is an inch lower than the '13. Gained four lbs over the '13, from EFI no doubt, but thats a good thing if they did not cut corners elsewhere. I was checking out a new '13, they are light and ergos fit me very well. I'm going to watch this one close, let someone else try one in the woods first, but its very attractive.
I agree it does sound like it might fit the bill. Clay's son seems to go really good on one too. I know Jeff has always said he wanted a modern long stroke motor and this may be it. I never saw one, but did see an older 450 up close at the Rattlesnake enduro a few years ago. They seem to have very few issues, you get the impression that R&D and prototype testing were very well done and the production bikes are ready to go with no BS. I'd like to see how the parts distribution takes shape before any consideration though.
That new Yamaha 250f is an interesting bike. I love the compact layout, no pipe exposed, and short muffler. Not much to break in the rocks. Even the seat height spec is an inch lower than the '13. Gained four lbs over the '13, from EFI no doubt, but thats a good thing if they did not cut corners elsewhere. I was checking out a new '13, they are light and ergos fit me very well. I'm going to watch this one close, let someone else try one in the woods first, but its very attractive.
Which new yamaha?? is it a yz or wr? actually does not matter as I cant get either plated in Pa.. but if I could I wouldnt mind one.. I still would like to pick up an old yz or wr 426 and do a sumo bike with the old yellow/black racing graphics from back in the king kenny days, like a throw back on a more modern bike. That since every time I find a rz350 or 500 I'd have to sell a car or put the house on a second mortgage to afford it.
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The new YZFs, but a 250 for me not a 450. It's just a curiosity really, but I have a thing for really minimalist bikes, and that thing is just so clean. If it starts easy, has no thermal issues, lasts a reasonable amount of time, and handles well, it should be good considering it can be remapped with a $250 tuner. A 2 gal tank with EFI will be plenty big. They make the perfect amount of power for most all trail situations. I'd want to see someone else do it first though, I'm done with that.
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It sure did catch my eye. And I have thought that big bore kits on the new short stroke motors (YZF250, crf250, etc.) are a complete waste of time - you need more stroke to go along with the bigger bore or else the extra displacement isn't going to "take you anywhere".
Sherco increased the stroke on this motor for 2013 - seems like a great move to me. Would love to ride one. Tasky's has an annual "demo day" at a private club owned track north of seattle. It looks like they have one in stock...
But you need a complete package for woods riding - compliant suspension to keep you connected to the ground - in control and able to deliver power in any increment and in any situation. Relatively tight but neutral steering manners. In this area - reports are that the 300i also delivers. Again, I would love to ride one.
Jeff
Here is video on youtube. Looks and sounds great - hooks up and goes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhvdTnJ3rDU
jeff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhvdTnJ3rDU
jeff
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Tasky does have one, and it looks to be a very nice bike. But Sherco offers no demonstrator incentive to a dealer, and I can't blame Jeff for not wanting to take the hit of selling it at demo, instead of new price. The most I could ride it was around the parking lot.
Still, I liked it a lot and sometimes wonder how it would have done if it was mine.
Tasky does have one, and it looks to be a very nice bike. But Sherco offers no demonstrator incentive to a dealer, and I can't blame Jeff for not wanting to take the hit of selling it at demo, instead of new price. The most I could ride it was around the parking lot.
Still, I liked it a lot and sometimes wonder how it would have done if it was mine.
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I rode my brother's new TXC310 today, and I was shocked how much I liked it. Its lighter than my GG and feels it. Makes very good power and hooks up great. It has the typical stroke flame out habit but a lot of this is rider error and not being used to the bike. Even then its a two kick restart or the button of course. I just can't get past how tiny that motor is. I don't think I'd want one due to the uncertainty with the company but what a bang for the buck. Even got Jersey tag.
The newer husky 310 has a slightly longer stroke than the sherco 300 - so they did it right as well - even though that motor has no future in the new world order - seems like they will be red ktms with husqvarna stickers available at the tail end of the year.
And I agree with you on the company. The announcements say that parts will be available for the older huskies - I still have my husky txc510 and I am a bit worried - if all else fails - ebay is your friend for bikes parting out, etc.
jeff
And I agree with you on the company. The announcements say that parts will be available for the older huskies - I still have my husky txc510 and I am a bit worried - if all else fails - ebay is your friend for bikes parting out, etc.
jeff
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Hey guys, I've got a mate who has an 11 yzf450 and I've ridden it quite a few times, it's stock apart from a small shim shuffle up front and a play with the yamtuner. It has very strong snatchy lower down power and heaps everywhere. The offset crank is to blame, and it's grip, it just hooks up everywhere, it seems to have a longer swingarm (though it could be an illusion), its an acquired taste, but in its refined form for 2014, it could be a great 250 wth good snappy bottom end ( if the offset crank has the same effect) and great grip. I'd think you'd have to be pretty quick to reach any steering issue from my experience. I'm vv interested to see how they shape up also. Btw the yz450 has over 200 hrs and all he's replaced is a broken clutch cable ( faulty). Cheers.
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I think all EFI 4strokes have that snatchy "digital" feel to them to a point, very non-linear off idle. The 450s just make it a lot more noticable. If you understand exactly how the EFI works, including the map(fuel and timing matrix), and the system allows for it, it can be tuned out to an extent. You can even tune out some of the compression braking if the system is flexible enough, I've done it on a 440 Cannondale. The Husky is bone stock and still a little tight so it will only get better. They just don't like to run below a certain RPM and once you accept this as a priority and ride the bike in a lower gear with the revs higher rather than torquing it through the rocks, its much better. We were on some pretty nasty technical trail yesterday with difficult climbs so on more moderate terrain it will be much less of an issue. Once past the off idle range the power is very effective. His bike was set up a little weird for me but with a few basic adjustments and a few more miles of acclimation I think I could go pretty well on it. The KYB suspension is not to far off and the bike turns very well. I hope it holds up and he can get parts for it in the future. If the Sherco has the EFI smoothed out on the bottom it will be even easier to ride, but a lot more $$.
First ride review posted now:
http://www.enduro360.com/2013/06/24/products-tested/sherco-300i-race-first-ride/
http://www.enduro360.com/2013/06/24/products-tested/sherco-300i-race-first-ride/
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Sounds pretty nice to me, like it has the minor Husky quirks like flame outs and tall seat addressed. I like the smaller feel of the older GGs and this sounds like it. I find it hard to beleive that you can't twist the spring on a clean shock like any bike to adjust the preload, there has to be a way to loosen the lock ring. No kicker takes a bit to get used to. For such an expensive bike, I think they should spec the closed chamber fork though. So far so good, now lets see how parts are distributed and how much they cost.
Hey Glenn,
Here is a post from Clay on how he will handle parts - he has a large stock of parts and a spare bike - will drop ship/sell direct to customers and pay dealer commission.
http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showpost.php?p=96308&postcount=22
For a low volume bike - sounds ideal. It would be nice if he would put together a spreadsheet with some typical parts prices so no one gets the shock of their life. e.g. A broken shifter shouldn't require me to draw on my home equity credit line!
jeff
Here is a post from Clay on how he will handle parts - he has a large stock of parts and a spare bike - will drop ship/sell direct to customers and pay dealer commission.
http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showpost.php?p=96308&postcount=22
For a low volume bike - sounds ideal. It would be nice if he would put together a spreadsheet with some typical parts prices so no one gets the shock of their life. e.g. A broken shifter shouldn't require me to draw on my home equity credit line!
jeff
. I'm 5'7" and like the smaller bikes myself.
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Jeff,
I remembered that after I posted. Sounds like a good plan that makes sense. I'd like to know prices of stuff like valves, pistons in addition to crash and wear parts like plastic and controls. Ever see prices on KTM 4stroke engine parts? It's staggering compared to a Yamaha, which is more reliable anyway. Even if I liked the orange bike(I don't) parts prices would rule it out completely.
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I remembered that after I posted. Sounds like a good plan that makes sense. I'd like to know prices of stuff like valves, pistons in addition to crash and wear parts like plastic and controls. Ever see prices on KTM 4stroke engine parts? It's staggering compared to a Yamaha, which is more reliable anyway. Even if I liked the orange bike(I don't) parts prices would rule it out completely.
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