INJECTOR cross referrence??
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Qui-gon
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I did some research on this a few months ago and didn't turn anything up that was an exact match. I believe some European Fiat models have the same basic injector but without the right angle feed. It is very similar to the IW 058 pintle type top feed one from Marelli. Take a trawl through ali baba or other chinese sites you might get lucky. I very much doubt that it is unique to GG and were most likely supplied to them by Marelli as a kit. The ECU we have comes from a group used on many bikes including Aprillia, Ducati and I believe HD so you may have some luck there.
The outrageous spares price, Like the cost of a replacement ecu, is consistent with Gas Gas's policy of buy a new bike after 3 years or we will screw you!
The outrageous spares price, Like the cost of a replacement ecu, is consistent with Gas Gas's policy of buy a new bike after 3 years or we will screw you!
Cant even buy them individually in Aust. Comes with Throtle body and $1100.
$350 now seems cheap.
I had mine cleaned and seems to be working again fine. But if it goes again I will be trying to get one from USA.
no you cant do yourself, take it to any good bike or maybe car service center it cost me only $25.00, is called a hyrdoscopic bath, its hard to explain but it works on sound pressure waves which creates cavitation very small bubbles inside the injector they inplod and clean up all deposits, they will also connect up to a injector pump and though a clear tube they can see it the injector has a correct fuel pressure spread etc, dont get a new injector until you have had yours checked out, if its the same as an 08 it just pulls out from the throttle body.
Qui-gon
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Had my own injector off today....same problem I think....injector is a standard type IWP043 made by Weber
Info here:
http://www.mmcompsys.com/product.php?id=141
Info here:
http://www.mmcompsys.com/product.php?id=141
Qui-gon
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Update:
The Weber injector IWP 043 is not very common in North America, at least not as common as it is in Europe. In the UK for example the injector is 44 sterling inc next day delivery.
The same injector is used on VW Passat and Santara 1.8l vehicles which I think were sold here? If so then there is probably an equivalent, maybe even from Napa.
Siemens Deka also make it, sold by Muscle Motors for $64, but it's not clear where they are based. Their part numbers are IWP-043 and IWP-162 which is listed as an equivalent.
The injectors shown for HD bikes are the same physical dimensions and are 32lb/hr (329 cc/min). They have an extra clip in the groove at the top and have a yellow plastic band on them (ours are brown band) so I think they are different. Online price in the USA is about $70.
The injector does have a fine gauze filter in the top which cannot be removed. Mine was completely clogged up with the inside of the fuel hose which had completely disintegrated into fine black particles and a grey goo! Just hope it works when I put the new hose on.
The Weber injector IWP 043 is not very common in North America, at least not as common as it is in Europe. In the UK for example the injector is 44 sterling inc next day delivery.
The same injector is used on VW Passat and Santara 1.8l vehicles which I think were sold here? If so then there is probably an equivalent, maybe even from Napa.
Siemens Deka also make it, sold by Muscle Motors for $64, but it's not clear where they are based. Their part numbers are IWP-043 and IWP-162 which is listed as an equivalent.
The injectors shown for HD bikes are the same physical dimensions and are 32lb/hr (329 cc/min). They have an extra clip in the groove at the top and have a yellow plastic band on them (ours are brown band) so I think they are different. Online price in the USA is about $70.
The injector does have a fine gauze filter in the top which cannot be removed. Mine was completely clogged up with the inside of the fuel hose which had completely disintegrated into fine black particles and a grey goo! Just hope it works when I put the new hose on.
iancp5
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Ethanol issue?
Qui-gon
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Yes. Unless GG put it together with some stuff they had laying around instead of the correct stuff! Looked correct from the outside but was completely rotten on the inside. You could tear it apart with your bare hands.
stainless601
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They are made by Magneti Marelli # WF1024
I just happen to have one new in the package along with a new fuel pump. Give me a PM.
I just happen to have one new in the package along with a new fuel pump. Give me a PM.
Hi.
My -02 FSE 400 got busted exhaust valve and it mangled the cylinder head pretty badly. I found used -03 FSE 450 for pretty cheap price. The seller told that bikes ECU and injector are broken. Can anybody tell if the ECU and injector are the same in those bikes? How about the cylinder head? Should I try to get the bike, or will I just end up having two broken bikes?
My -02 FSE 400 got busted exhaust valve and it mangled the cylinder head pretty badly. I found used -03 FSE 450 for pretty cheap price. The seller told that bikes ECU and injector are broken. Can anybody tell if the ECU and injector are the same in those bikes? How about the cylinder head? Should I try to get the bike, or will I just end up having two broken bikes?
Qui-gon
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You are probably in uncharted territory there! Try checking the part numbers first to see if any match. If that isn't conclusive see if you can "borrow the parts to try them. I am almost certain the injectors are all the same with the Marelli injection bikes. The ecu is different year on year as the engine dimensions changed. I have repaired a few for members on here and I can tell you the 05/06/07 ECUs all run on my 06 bike but only for test purposes. I never did any more that run them out in the desert for a few minutes so any performance differences over standard would not have been tested. The mapping for 05 06 and 07 in the ECUs is different at least based on the code (which is a mess IMHO). The circuit board layouts are slightly different on the later models (progress I guess) and they are repairable to a point. The pre 2005 engines are quite a lot different in appearance and internal dimensions so I doubt the head will fit.
Hope that helps
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