New bike Delivery ?

I'd almost prefer not to see a 16 model. So late in the game getting to market would only hurt the dealers with inventory. I hope they take the time to put out a well thought out 17and have it here in the states for early fall. Get part inventories where they need to be (although I never experienced not being able to get a part through this whole ordeal) this will build current customer/dealer confidence.
In my opinion just putting a bike out there to get a bike out there would not be a good idea.
 
memphis2857 said:
Will these be BNG bikes? Or will they be the 2016 you spoke of way back when with some changes?


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Way too early to make an accurate comment on that. I am supposed to go to Spain in December, so we will know more then. If they can offer the current models with all the improvements we saw listed last Jan. I will be happy.
 
Wimpy525 said:
I'd almost prefer not to see a 16 model. So late in the game getting to market would only hurt the dealers with inventory. I hope they take the time to put out a well thought out 17and have it here in the states for early fall. Get part inventories where they need to be (although I never experienced not being able to get a part through this whole ordeal) this will build current customer/dealer confidence.
In my opinion just putting a bike out there to get a bike out there would not be a good idea.
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You make a solid point
 
I'd almost prefer not to see a 16 model. So late in the game getting to market would only hurt the dealers with inventory. I hope they take the time to put out a well thought out 17and have it here in the states for early fall. Get part inventories where they need to be (although I never experienced not being able to get a part through this whole ordeal) this will build current customer/dealer confidence.
In my opinion just putting a bike out there to get a bike out there would not be a good idea.
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Understand your point but they need to generate revenue quick or else GasGas will be further in debt and to wait a whole year before releasing a new bike probably won't help them that much. It would be nice if they could wait and finish sorting things out but time and money are probably not on their side.
Maybe heavy discounted 2015/16BNG would help to keep the brand active then 2017 roll out the really new shinny improved bikes with big discounts for us loyal gasgas fans:)
 
Wimpy525 said:
I'd almost prefer not to see a 16 model. So late in the game getting to market would only hurt the dealers with inventory. I hope they take the time to put out a well thought out 17and have it here in the states for early fall. Get part inventories where they need to be (although I never experienced not being able to get a part through this whole ordeal) this will build current customer/dealer confidence.
In my opinion just putting a bike out there to get a bike out there would not be a good idea.
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Not quite that easy. I understand what you're saying and yes...there needs to be focus on parts inventory...but having part isn't what puts the brand back on the radar in terms of growth and growth comes from new unit sales.

#1 First remember we are not just talking about this country but global. There are several countries who never even got 2015 models! For those distributors and dealers, they must have something to sell and soon.

# 2 Again, not just talking about the US but the brand has lost so much ground to their competitors in terms of market share, there is no time to wait. The fact is, we have customers who have put off buying a new bike, in hopes of a 2016 model. We also have racers who are committed to the brand that need fresh bikes ASAP. The quicker Gas Gas can get new product out in the field, the better to help build for 2017.

#3 The factory workers have exhausted all benefits and must return to work, as this is part of the deal. They have put their lives on hold, stayed loyal to the company and patiently waited instead of finding another job. They cannot afford to wait, nor should they be asked to.

Lastly, your comment on hurting dealers with inventory...We do not just drop bikes on dealers then ask for a check. They know what they will need and what they won't. Considering we oversold 2015 models by quite some number, plus the new dealers who are waiting to come on, they will need product by spring as well.
 
ramcclure200 said:
Understand your point but they need to generate revenue quick or else GasGas will be further in debt and to wait a whole year before releasing a new bike probably won't help them that much. It would be nice if they could wait and finish sorting things out but time and money are probably not on their side.
Maybe heavy discounted 2015/16BNG would help to keep the brand active then 2017 roll out the really new shinny improved bikes with big discounts for us loyal gasgas fans:)
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There are no 2015's in our pipeline. The ones left in dealer stock, you can count on both hands...actually less.
 
Rod Overstreet said:
Not quite that easy. I understand what you're saying and yes...there needs to be focus on parts inventory...but having part isn't what puts the brand back on the radar in terms of growth and growth comes from new unit sales.

#1 First remember we are not just talking about this country but global. There are several countries who never even got 2015 models! For those distributors and dealers, they must have something to sell and soon.

# 2 Again, not just talking about the US but the brand has lost so much ground to their competitors in terms of market share, there is no time to wait. The fact is, we have customers who have put off buying a new bike, in hopes of a 2016 model. We also have racers who are committed to the brand that need fresh bikes ASAP. The quicker Gas Gas can get new product out in the field, the better to help build for 2017.

#3 The factory workers have exhausted all benefits and must return to work, as this is part of the deal. They have put their lives on hold, stayed loyal to the company and patiently waited instead of finding another job. They cannot afford to wait, nor should they be asked to.

Lastly, your comment on hurting dealers with inventory...We do not just drop bikes on dealers then ask for a check. They know what they will need and what they won't. Considering we oversold 2015 models by quite some number, plus the new dealers who are waiting to come on, they will need product by spring as well.
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Agreed. IMO the 2015 looks to be a pretty good bike (we didn't see any in Canada). They need to get some 16's in the pipeline for spring and make a fresh start for 2017.
 
Rod Overstreet said:
Not quite that easy. I understand what you're saying and yes...there needs to be focus on parts inventory...but having part isn't what puts the brand back on the radar in terms of growth and growth comes from new unit sales.

#1 First remember we are not just talking about this country but global. There are several countries who never even got 2015 models! For those distributors and dealers, they must have something to sell and soon.

# 2 Again, not just talking about the US but the brand has lost so much ground to their competitors in terms of market share, there is no time to wait. The fact is, we have customers who have put off buying a new bike, in hopes of a 2016 model. We also have racers who are committed to the brand that need fresh bikes ASAP. The quicker Gas Gas can get new product out in the field, the better to help build for 2017.

#3 The factory workers have exhausted all benefits and must return to work, as this is part of the deal. They have put their lives on hold, stayed loyal to the company and patiently waited instead of finding another job. They cannot afford to wait, nor should they be asked to.

Lastly, your comment on hurting dealers with inventory...We do not just drop bikes on dealers then ask for a check. They know what they will need and what they won't. Considering we oversold 2015 models by quite some number, plus the new dealers who are waiting to come on, they will need product by spring as well.
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You make a good point Rod, didn't realize that so few bikes were made last year. Sounds like the 15 with some finishing will be good. I sure you will catch me down to Matto's drooling over the 2016. But my 13 is going to go one more year before I make any changes, and that's not my choice:(
 
memphis2857 said:
Bold New Graphics. Companies tend to use the Bold New Graphics line as a sales pitch when they make no changes from one year to the next.


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BNG was actually coined back in 1991 by Suzuki at their US dealer meeting. Ask me how I know :)

....dang I'm old.
 
Rod Overstreet said:
BNG was actually coined back in 1991 by Suzuki at their US dealer meeting. Ask me how I know :)

....dang I'm old.
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Good lord were some of those graphics horrible back then. The RM seats looked like an alpaca puked on them. I ended up buying a Honda CR instead which looked fairly normal but had probably the worst suspension and weird handling I've ever experienced in a bike. Should have just saved my money in 1991. Ha ha
 
Chaz955i said:
Good lord were some of those graphics horrible back then. The RM seats looked like an alpaca puked on them. I ended up buying a Honda CR instead which looked fairly normal but had probably the worst suspension and weird handling I've ever experienced in a bike. Should have just saved my money in 1991. Ha ha
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Strange time back then. Remember the sorta "pink" Yamaha's? The color code was actually called "Fushisa" since the word "pink" did not translate :D
 
Rod Overstreet said:
HAHA....But really...that bike wasn't that bad. Suspension was too soft but that was an easy fix. Those were the gravy days man!
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I love it. Its a dual sport that has every mod known possible. Big bore, fcr, port and polished head, fork swap, custom valved forks and shock. etc etc etc. mine is really a ripper. I have way too much money tied up in it.

And my 17 year old has one thats stock. Just heavy for woods riding.

I've got new hard guards since those didn't match!



 
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