12 XC300 where is the weight?

[Bandit9]

Besides the lights, wiring, Q Stealth, and kickstand, what else could I remove from a Kick Start 12 300? Is there anything to be had?

Is the alloy subframe a big weight saver?

This is going to be my no compromise Enduro bike, not a trail bike. So I'm trying to slim it up and save some stuff from getting broken.

 

[wa_ndro]

About the Q Stealth , def some room to improve there

 

[twowheels]

Subframe is only 720g savings after the side cladding is installed. Better piece though ...

 

[Bandit9]

I have a poly skid plate on it too.

Tubliss system is another.

I don't see anything else. Looks like it is what it is.

 

[bowhunter007]

Spent all day, in the mountains on a 12 ec300, Sunday. The only time I felt the weight, was lifting it over a tree.

 

[Bandit9]

I really just want to remove all non essential stuff and replace heavy stuff with lighter stuff. Don't really care how heavy it is, only that I've optimized what we can take off.

I'm also curious as what exaclty makes it's weigh what it does. Is it the frame? Frame and Motor? That "inner fender" set up just looks heavy to me. Could that be part of it?

I'm cool with it being a bit over built. I see the long term benefits of having it a little thick. I also like a more planted stable feel.

 

[twowheels]

I really just want to remove all non essential stuff and replace heavy stuff with lighter stuff. Don't really care how heavy it is, only that I've optimized what we can take off.

I'm also curious as what exaclty makes it's weigh what it does. Is it the frame? Frame and Motor? That "inner fender" set up just looks heavy to me. Could that be part of it?

I'm cool with it being a bit over built. I see the long term benefits of having it a little thick. I also like a more planted stable feel.

Engine cases, frame, wheels, swingarm ...

 

[nknudsen]

Weight reduction

I figured out a way to drop 30lbs from my 00' EC250. Ride bicycle like I did pre family/kids. I'm 6'1" and weighed 160 at that time and now 190.

 

[nambo-trev]

I figured out a way to drop 30lbs from my 00' EC250. Ride bicycle like I did pre family/kids. I'm 6'1" and weighed 160 at that time and now 190.

Exactly!!! Dropping 10 pounds off your body is a hell of a lot easier than dropping it off your bike.

 

[Bandit9]

I agree and I have lost 15 lbs since mid August. I'm just removing/replacing stuff that is unessessary for enduro/harescrambles. As much weight I can get off both of us is the goal.

 

[nknudsen]

I agree and I have lost 15 lbs since mid August. I'm just removing/replacing stuff that is unessessary for enduro/harescrambles. As much weight I can get off both of us is the goal.

Good plan. Here's an idea! The cycle hill climbers from this area remove the front fender for weight savings I never did understand their thinking.

 

[Bandit9]

Ha! I consider a fender a necessity. Choke lever on the clutch perch and cable is unnessassary. Just put knob on Carb.

 

[andoman]

Synergy Seals sells a composite bushing kit for the linkage that is a tad lighter than needle bearings. But that's only a tiny, tiny savings.
A Rekluse will allow you to remove the clutch lever, master, and line. Significant savings. But at $800 its right up there with Ti hardware in terms of lb./$

It looks like you have done about all you can do with practicality in mind.

 

[Moto7man]

Tubeliss on both wheels, titanium axles from Yamaha's GYRT parts maybe.

 

[Bandit9]

Tubliss is something I might try. You can move that from bike to bike too.

I may just get crazy and get 2014 in January.

 

[Desert Rider]

Lighter and faster

I figured out a way to drop 30lbs from my 00' EC250. Ride bicycle like I did pre family/kids. I'm 6'1" and weighed 160 at that time and now 190.

Agree. Since leaving the coal mine after 34 years of 3 shifts, I have gone from 242 pounds, to 200 pounds. The bikes are much faster! 450F is a hand-full. Gonna sell it.

Had to retune the suspension.

6' 3", 200 pounds now. Too cheap to buy new pants. Just keep pulling them up.

Steve

 

[GasTimppa]

Titanium footpegs?

 

[bergerhag]

I really just want to remove all non essential stuff and replace heavy stuff with lighter stuff. Don't really care how heavy it is, only that I've optimized what we can take off.

I'm also curious as what exaclty makes it's weigh what it does. Is it the frame? Frame and Motor? That "inner fender" set up just looks heavy to me. Could that be part of it?

I'm cool with it being a bit over built. I see the long term benefits of having it a little thick. I also like a more planted stable feel.

Steel frame stripped clean + engine weight is 12+27=39 kg (86lbs)

 

[Bandit9]

Is 86lbs a lot for a frame and motor?