2012 300 Electric Start Weight?

[Boomhauer]

Good morning fellas!

After my get off at the LA National Enduro yesterday, I am deciding to go back to a smoker. Do not get me wrong.......I like my Berg but it is not suited to my riding style. I am going to sell her and either buy the Berg 300 or a gas gas 300. Electric start of course.

Anybody got the dry weight on the 300 gasser electric start. I could not find it.

Clay you almost ended up with a "Trade" in your trailer yesterday!

 

[GMP]

Robby,

I knew you would be back. To a man, everyone I know of that bought one of those things has dumped it. For the weight figure close to what your old bike weighed. Lighter new design, but add weight back for estart components. Why estart?

 

[Boomhauer]

Because my ass is fat, old & getting lazier by the day! Plus I meesed up my knee really bad last year and then again yesterday. Better safe than sorry. But who knows might just be the old kicker.

 

[GMP]

I'm always of the philosophy that if you need an estart due to some physical limitation, that limitation will rear is ugly head in a trail situation more serious than kick starting the bike. But thats just me and I don't know whats best for you. My ass is a lot older than yours, no sympathy there buddy! Kick start, workout plan, good knee brace.

 

[Moto7man]

Just IMHO. Before I bought my 2011 EC 300 E, I didn't want an estart at all. I raced a Florida HS a week ago. I got a poor start and it was a dust bowl. But I passed 8 people in a quarter of a mile. Everyone of them had run up on someone in the thick dust, then grabbed the binders and stalled. Poor guys were kicking like crazy while stuck in a sandstorm. I stalled once but I had the engine restarted before the wheels stopped rolling. It was also very hot and super humid. It is a distinct disadvantage to waste energy kicking a stalled bike in brutally hot conditions. I won't have a bike w/o the button now.

 

[GMP]

If they could just integrate the system better so its more compact and reliable with a wet interface. The motor doesn't weigh that much plus its low on the bike, so if you wanted to save a few lbs you could just dump the battery.

 

[Clay]

Good morning fellas!

After my get off at the LA National Enduro yesterday, I am deciding to go back to a smoker. Do not get me wrong.......I like my Berg but it is not suited to my riding style. I am going to sell her and either buy the Berg 300 or a gas gas 300. Electric start of course.

Anybody got the dry weight on the 300 gasser electric start. I could not find it.

Clay you almost ended up with a "Trade" in your trailer yesterday!

LOL!!! I'm glad I didn't. I was too tired to push it out of my trailer!

 

[Boomhauer]

That is ok Clay. The Berg is heading back to Imperial, PA for selling. It did cross my mind more than once though while I was waiting on Girard to finish up.

 

[Boomhauer]

I'm always of the philosophy that if you need an estart due to some physical limitation, that limitation will rear is ugly head in a trail situation more serious than kick starting the bike. But thats just me and I don't know whats best for you. My ass is a lot older than yours, no sympathy there buddy! Kick start, workout plan, good knee brace.

Do 12 oz. curls fit into the "Workout" These are the silver bullet kind.

 

[GMP]

I still do those just not as many or as often, well just not as often.

I just took a different approach to training, got bored with the typical machines and weights. TRX suspension training is it. I have this personal trainer, a tough girl from Brooklyn NY, kick my ass every Thursday, then I do my own TRX workouts the other days. It works, I'm down 10 lbs, stronger, and can ride hard to the very end of a harescramble now without getting tired.

Try it it might work for you.

 

[rgranger]

Good, then you can help me work on mine some after getting me sucked in

 

[Bandit9]

It weighs less than you.

 

[REVERUP]

I knew it was just a matter of time Boom.

I got to tell ya I was on the fence about the e start until I got my 2011. Ive had mine for a year and a half with many hours of use. I have shimmed it to get it the best it can be for engagement. It's not prefect it doesn't start first stab every time. But usually if not, certainly by the second.

I won't go back to kick alone. I use it all the time except for dead engine starts when racing. I don't run a rekluse auto clutch so at the rare chance I do stall a quick hit of the button and away I go. Long gone is the occasional uneven ground start where you cant kick and touch the ground without tipping over and with the bike getting a bit taller in 2012 it may be even more important. Course set up and tear down is made easier also. I don't know how many times I stop and start in a day doing this.

I tossed the lead stocker battery for a Shorai battery which cuts the weight penalty in half immediately. Its a great buy. It's only about a 3.5 pound penalty now with that mod.

Of course you now have something more that could go wrong to the simple design of the 2 stroke that we all love. For me it's well worth it and Its positives well out weigh the negatives.

Roscoe

 

[john01]

I like the fact that you have the option and with e-start you can still kick if you like.

 

[GasGas]

I got to try out a 2012 today with the e start. I must say I was liking the button. You guys that are getting the new bikes soon are in for a treat. They are nothing like riding the 2011. Feels completely different. Took a few minutes to get a feel for it. They feel extremely light. I would not be too concerned about the weight of the e start.