2013 ec update

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v-tec

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Hi all,
Just got back from a 12 hour round trip to GAS GAS UK.
Went up there to look at the new 2013 models,now this is not a public showroom i guess its somthing like clays place, They do have a spares dept,

The bike stowage department was unlocked just for us (so much to look at )
Like kids with toys,The sales lady left us to look over , sit on , remove the 2013 seat, compare seat hight 2012/2013.
I must say for me at 5ft 7ins the new seat hight was noticeable,
The seat came off easy and the new subframe looks much stronger,
Tank size is 1 litre less, but there is much more room around it,
Steering lock was noticeabley beter,
There was one thing a little disappointing, here in the UK the 2011/2012 bikes have a FMF silencer/muffler they look sexy, but the 2013 has a gasgas in house unit, maybe cost saving but it dont look as good, im not saying its a deal breaker, but i suppose they are trying to cut costs.
Anyway i think the updates are a step in the right direction, thats for sure,
Well what a great way to spend the day,Thanks to GASGAS.
There a still some 2012 around,with a saving of 600 uk pounds over the 2013
600 buys a lot of bolt on bits
Decisions Decsions, But one thing is, can you imagine the orange bike importer letting you loose in there warehouse, Na,dont think so.

By for now
V-tec
 
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I do have to add,, the gas gas silencer my 97 250ec came with was by far the best silencer I had on that bike.. not a spooge collector and quiet! The FMF's were ok.. dripped a lot, and much louder.. I needed a spark arrestor or else it would have been on the bike forever..
 
I must say for me at 5ft 7ins the new seat hight was noticeable,

in like it was lower/better? 'cause I am a bit stubby too.
 
That would be cool but I'd probably still be in there drooling :cool:. BTW which color looked the best in person?
 
What was different about the subframe?? I understand the lower seat height was acchived by a different linkage. I had a guy look at a 12 and 13 side by side and he said the linkage looked identical but was different colar. He sat on the two and saqid he felt no difference! I saved $900 and bought a 12 Gas Gas 300. Hope I don't regret not grqabbing a 13, but $900 buys other stuff! Yea love this thing and no the POS orange factory probably would not allow anything like that!!
 
The GasGas/Messico silencer on my '07 is good. Compact, light, and quiet enough. If the bend was the same I would have swapped it to my '12 on day one.
 
fletchman45 said:
What was different about the subframe?? I understand the lower seat height was acchived by a different linkage. I had a guy look at a 12 and 13 side by side and he said the linkage looked identical but was different colar. He sat on the two and saqid he felt no difference! I saved $900 and bought a 12 Gas Gas 300. Hope I don't regret not grqabbing a 13, but $900 buys other stuff! Yea love this thing and no the POS orange factory probably would not allow anything like that!!
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A millimeter or two on the pull rods accounts for the 3/4" or so drop in seat height. The new rods are anodized a brownish/bronze color.

The battery box has moved up off the subframe rails to a box attached to the seat. There is a hefty U-shaped aluminum piece tying the subframe halves together while still allowing unfettered access to the filter. Getting the seat off is tricky the first couple times you try because of where it catches, but its easier to get to the filter once its hanging by its tether at the side of the bike.

Some of that $900 should be set aside for shrouds - the new pieces are sturdier than the 12s.
 
Someone measure the pull rods. I'd bet the '13 are a bit longer to drop the rear and soften the initial travel. The '12, while very good, has a firm initial feel for a 5.2 spring @ < 10mm preload.

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Wow, that Steve is fast!

Either replace the shrouds or mount with bolts before you loose them.
 
AJP was the traditional supplier but the company went under as they were spec'ing the '12s. They apparently got their stuff back together and are fitted once again. I didn't look but I would expect the hubs to also be AJP.
 
The factory gets a lot of pressure to use Spanish companies for parts. AJP is a Spanish company, I believe, but I'm not sure and I'm too lazy to Google it.
 
fletchman45 said:
What was different about the subframe?? I understand the lower seat height was acchived by a different linkage. I had a guy look at a 12 and 13 side by side and he said the linkage looked identical but was different colar. He sat on the two and saqid he felt no difference! I saved $900 and bought a 12 Gas Gas 300. Hope I don't regret not grqabbing a 13, but $900 buys other stuff! Yea love this thing and no the POS orange factory probably would not allow anything like that!!
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My mate jinxit has the 12 and saved a load of dosh, its a good bike and he is pleased with it,
The subframe on the 13 is beefed up a bit and is reinforced,just a bit of a update, Still nothing at all wrong with the 12

V-tec
 
The 13 also does not have excel wheels from what Iv'e heard. Does anyone have a lowering link yet for the 12???????? I saved $900 but maby I should of bought a 13!!! Shrouds and frame guards look like and easy change. Seat deal I'm not sure about.
 
fletchman45 said:
The 13 also does not have excel wheels from what Iv'e heard. Does anyone have a lowering link yet for the 12???????? I saved $900 but maby I should of bought a 13!!! Shrouds and frame guards look like and easy change. Seat deal I'm not sure about.
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Its called 13 pullrods. Pm me and we'll get a set on the way.

PlusOnePerformance
 
I don't have a '12 to compare it to, but I can say that:

1) The wheels do not say Excel, so I assume they are not. They look nice to me, though.
2) I hate the battery being on the bottom of the seat, but oh well.
3) The shrouds are surely an improvement if they didn't use bolts at all before. The top still pushes into a rubber bushing and can be somewhat difficult to get in without pushing the bushing through.
4) I like the AJP clutch. I'd never heard of the brand before, but it holds up without losing feel. I'm a pretty good clutch abuser too. I wonder if anybody sells levers...I wouldn't mind getting a spare.

I'm 5'6" and feel very comfortable with the height. Before buying mine, I rode a 2011 and was totally sold on the seat height alone. I couldn't find a new one, though, so figured I'd have to get a 12 or 13. I have the sag set to 106 and the forks are pushed up to the second line. I may move them back to the top line. I can put one foot down or two feet on my toes. On previous bikes I cut the seat foam, but on this one it was not necessary...which is good because there is no foam to spare. lol.

I don't think you made the wrong decision on the '12. I was very close to getting one myself and then found a smoking deal on a '13.

The bottom line is, though, that this bike is unbelievably awesome!
 
twowheels said:
Its called 13 pullrods. Pm me and we'll get a set on the way.

PlusOnePerformance
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I noticed on the spec sheet for the 2013 bike the shock had been revalved , so if you put the 13 pullrods on a 12 would you have to revalve the shock to suit ?
 
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