CLock/Speedo unit not working

[Chilli]

2005 250EC

My clock does not want to come on. I have tried another one but alas, same thing. I have therefore eliminated that issue. It seems as if it is just not getting power. I have checked connections and seem in tact. Checked against the wiring diagram and seems to be connected correctly. There is power in the system as the light and hooter work, but not the damned clock
I have absolutely no bloody idea about electrical and wiring.

Any grand ideas? Please not too technical though

 

[slocalspode]

Is there a battery in the back of the speedo unit?
The older round style speedos used an "N" type battery I believe.
The newer rectangle shaped ones use a 9V.
Check to be sure, that may be your problem.
Jeff

 

[Chilli]

Thanks a lot. How easy was that not !!!!
Battery in and clock working. Now that was the type of easy solution I was looking for

As for GG user manual
Well, I dont think its worth the paper its printed on. It doesn't even let you know there is a battery. I have also come across other serious short comings in there. This besides all the Spanish words thrown in here and there and some lovely spelling mistakes just for good measure.

 

[cladoo]

Where exactly is the battery?

 

[Chilli]

Remove the clock, turn it up side down. There you will see 2 screws. Its under that cover

 

[cladoo]

Here are 2 pics of my speedo.
First one is altogether.

This is it with the back off.

Where is the battery exactly?

 

[slocalspode]

That is the newer AceWell speedo. I don't think this one has a battery.
It gets it's power from the motorcycle or from an add-on 9V battery.
This this post for a discussion on how to attach the add-on 9V battery.
http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2812
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This is the type of speedo I was talking about with the other type
of batteries mounted in the back.

The top one is the older style from around 2002. The lower one came with,
(I beleive) the 2003-2006 models. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I was asking in that earlier post how to hook up the newer, 2002, to a wiring
harness set up for the older round gage style. I never got an answer.
I now have a fancy clock on my EC300 with no other functions.
I did pick up one of the newer AceWell gages a couple months ago. I may
try and mount that one and see if I can get it to work.
Best of luck, Jeff

 

[slocalspode]

oops. that was an even earlier post where I was asking about hooking
up my new gage to the old wiring harness. I can't seem to find that
post any more.
Oh well, you get the idea.
Cheers, Jeff

 

[cladoo]

If it dosen't have a battery how does it keep a memory?

 

[slocalspode]

I think you need to mount an external battery to
keep the memory function working.
Check out the thread I posted a link to in the
above reply.
It shows how another member solved his mounting
problems.
Good luck, Jeff

 

[cladoo]

I have had two of these, one on my '06 and one on my '07. They keep data stored, like total hours, total mileage, rpm max, speed max. I would just like to know how and how to zero it (reset)!

 

[slocalspode]

How about here....somewhere..
http://www.acewell-meter.com/download.php
Don't know the model # of your unit.
Hope this helps. Sorry if it does not.
Cheers, Jeff

 

[cladoo]

It is this modelhttp://www.acewell-meter.com/images/V1manual.pdf
The manual says that it records Total Time from when the bike is first started . It also says that Total Time, ODO and clock cannot be reset. That kinda sucks if you are moving it to another bike! I don't see the need to have a 9v battery then.

 

[lukemillar]

That is the newer AceWell speedo. I don't think this one has a battery.
It gets it's power from the motorcycle or from an add-on 9V battery.
This this post for a discussion on how to attach the add-on 9V battery.
http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2812
-------------------
This is the type of speedo I was talking about with the other type
of batteries mounted in the back.

The top one is the older style from around 2002. The lower one came with,
(I beleive) the 2003-2006 models. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I was asking in that earlier post how to hook up the newer, 2002, to a wiring
harness set up for the older round gage style. I never got an answer.
I now have a fancy clock on my EC300 with no other functions.
I did pick up one of the newer AceWell gages a couple months ago. I may
try and mount that one and see if I can get it to work.
Best of luck, Jeff

Sorry to dig up this old thread, but I have just bought an 04 FSE 400 but have the clocks with round face from older model 2002 attached. Do you know whether the 2003-2006 model clocks are pretty much plug and play with the older style loom? I may have the chance to buy some newer ones - just wondering it is an easy install!?

Thanks
Luke

 

[gasmonkey]

Don't bother.Life's too short to waste on details like this that won't work.I have all three models thrown in a bucket with all the other non essnential crap you don't need.
The first model's face and buttons fall in,hard to read and batteries go flat.
The second is better but 9v bat goes flat.
The big screen one is ok but speedo calibration is way out and is cursed with fine and finicky wiring.
They're all prone to have the speed sensor wire being bashed and ripped in rock gardens.The rear mounted ones were even worse.
Just fit a small self powered hour meter ala ktm = trouble free.

 

[slocalspode]

This was the thread where I was asking for help wiring the
newer rectangle speedo to the wiring harness for the older
round face gages.
http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1735
Never did get an answer, nor did I ever get it figured out
on my own. I still have a nice fancy clock with no other
functions on my handlebars. I guess I never really needed
it anyway.
Jeff

 

[lukemillar]

Don't bother.Life's too short to waste on details like this that won't work.I have all three models thrown in a bucket with all the other non essnential crap you don't need.
The first model's face and buttons fall in,hard to read and batteries go flat.
The second is better but 9v bat goes flat.
The big screen one is ok but speedo calibration is way out and is cursed with fine and finicky wiring.
They're all prone to have the speed sensor wire being bashed and ripped in rock gardens.The rear mounted ones were even worse.
Just fit a small self powered hour meter ala ktm = trouble free.

Mine is dual purpose, so having a working speedo is sort of useful! Besides, looking at the pics in slocalspode's post, the square clocks are mounted a lot higher. My round ones are level with the top yoke, which makes getting the key in and even reading the things a b!tch because of the numberboard fairing. Even if I swap, just to raise them up 2 inches - I'll take that! Out of interest - how long should the batteries last in the round clocks?

This was the thread where I was asking for help wiring the
newer rectangle speedo to the wiring harness for the older
round face gages.
http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1735
Never did get an answer, nor did I ever get it figured out
on my own. I still have a nice fancy clock with no other
functions on my handlebars. I guess I never really needed
it anyway.
Jeff

Thanks for the link. I'll keep that in mind. At the moment my clocks work intermittently. I swapped out the batteries and this morning everything was working fine. Then the light started flickering again and eventually everything when dead. I'm hoping it's just the vibes and some intermittent wiring connection. In it's current state, if I swap out the clocks, at the very least it'll make the key easier to get in!