combined rider/bike weight

barossi73

barossi73

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how about a poll of combined weight of bike and rider,and perhaps then a power to weight index for riders based on bike output.bike fully fuelled,all lubricants,protection etc,and rider in all gear.ive weighed my bike two ways-on the liftstand on the bathroom scales-and front wheel weight,added to rear wheel weight.the diff was negligible+/-0.5kg so the 'each wheel' method prob the easiest.cheap scales accuracy?unknown!
Anyway,heres mine-ive included anything that would affect weight from stock

13 200 p3 pipeguard,p3 bashplate,rad braces,with kickstand,and factory lighting 118.5kg
rider with gear,incl small toolkit,and 1litre water 76kg
grand total 194.5kg
38hp? divided by 194.5kg equals 0.195hp/kg
 
Its all variable. I don't know what the bike weighs in at, but I know the 2013 is definitely heavier than the 2010. I feel the different noticably when moving it around. In motion, they both are no issue at all.

Bike weight varies heaps depending on how much mud is stuck to it, how many L of fuel left, which brand of tyres, tubes, mouses, etc. How many tools you carry. How many litres of water. My weight varies depending how much I've induldged, but mostly hovers around 75kgs when dressed in day to day attire. Put me in bike gear with a tool roll and a backpack, plus 3L of water and an extra L of fuel, and I'd say I'd be up over 100kgs. Then wet me and add a few more.

I guess what I'm saying, is that for me weight is not an issue. Not when its a few kgs here or there. How the bike rides and how much rider input it takes to keep it going where you want it to has a much bigger effect.
 
I agree weight is only one factor.was responding to another thread baggin the gasgas weight which got me thinking how saving a few kilos bike weight means nothing if youre 20kg heavier than your mates.still felt it would be an interesting poll.
 
I did weigh my '04 200 once. I think it was around 225 to 235 lbs. cant remember exactly. Once rolling you really cant feel the weight on the gas gas. Its real nimble and has a nice light feel. I've had a couple of KDX 200's and they feel heavy when riding vs the gas gas even though there about the same weight. It really comes down to terrain, weather, tires, tubes, suspension, skill, etc.

bowhunter007, I just sold a R1100GS. You want heavy, try rolling it through the woods, I have. uggggg. I'll stay on my little gasgas for off roading.
 
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2004ec200 said:
I did weigh my '04 200 once. I think it was around 225 to 235 lbs. cant remember exactly. Once rolling you really cant feel the weight on the gas gas. Its real nimble and has a nice light feel. I've had a couple of KDX 200's and they feel heavy when riding vs the gas gas even though there about the same weight. It really comes down to terrain, weather, tires, rubes, suspension, skill, etc.

bowhunter007, I just sold a R1100GS. You want heavy, try rolling it through the woods, I have. uggggg. I'll stay on my little gasgas for off roading.
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For sure. I think most riders have experienced some form of "overweight" offroad riding. I agree lighter would be nice, but any bike I currently own tips scales beyond 250ish pounds.
 
Big bikes

bowhunter007 said:
I just don't get the whole "my bike is lighter, than your bike" thing. Try spending a few hours wrestling an f800gs through the singles. After that, any brand of offroad bike will feel light as a feather & be a joy to ride.

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I'm with you on this one
I run a 990 Adventure and just love jumping back on the GasGas after a day on the trails wrestling that beast around
I'd be better off going for a run than worrying about what bike weighs 10 kg more than the rest
 
hmmm,the point was more about total combined weight and power to weight index,than how light is your bike.equally applicable to your 990 adventure or bowhunters avatar special!.extra weight can be a bonus for long gravel powerslides and extended wheelies!nice and stable.light is particularly good when youre in the shite,obviously!rider weight is by far the bigger variable with dirtbikes.so bike hp/total kg index,tailored to individual rider,suitable for all bikes.if u factor in a pillion on your 990 you can tell your mates how much power you lose with the wife on the back!
 
I do not own any on off road heavy weights like a 990 ktm but have 2 Gasgas trials bikes . They are very light !! But my Gasgas endure bike are only heavy when they are upside down , on there side in a ditch , or some other :mad::mad::mad: bad angle . So name a endure bike that is not heavy under those circumstances ? Will 10 pounds make a difference to this old man ? Nope it will not . But I believe that my bike is one of the best enduro bikes out there . The Beta / Sherco / TM / Jap bikes and dare I say KTM are great bikes they may be lighter by a few pounds but my bike really handles great and is balanced great . Oh I almost forgot to mention it is the best looking bike out there !
 
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