DE300 first ride

redrider7202

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Well, yesterday i had my first ride on my new to me 2006 DE300. First a little background. I learned to ride on a CT70. Once i got back into riding I rode that around, and within a year had gotten a XR100R then a XR250R. Currently I have the CT70, and a beta trials bike to go with the DE. I also have some seat time on a KTM 450.The ride consisted of probably 15-20 miles of CATRA trails. For those of you who haven't been there it's almost exclusively single track with rocks and roots everywhere.

So, first impression, WOW. This bike is so far and above my XR that I have a hard time explaining it. The suspension is re-worked by LTR so I can't comment on how things work stock, however, with the re valve the easy trails felt flat and smooth... and even those have whoops and roots. As the day continued and the trials got rockier this feeling continued. The bike felt extremely smooth and light. It seemed to respond almost by thought. I never found myself having to muscle the bike through the woods.

Now, i have a D776 on the rear (i think) and i'd say soil conditions are more of an intermediate, and there are a lot of rocks, so to say this tire isn't suited for the conditions is an understatement, although it did work better then I would of thought. I say this to talk about this next part, the engine. The engine is the best and worse part of this bike. The torque and delivery is to die for. When you want power, just touch the throttle and you have it. That's also the worst part, at least for now until i can get used to it. If you get out of shape on this bike and twist the throttle it's nothing but trouble. On more then one occasion I was mid turn and would hit the throttle. Front wheel would of course hit a rock, and i'd be on the back wheel before i could blink. This resulted in more then one encounter with a tree, or getting bounced off line. This is going to take some getting used to. I also got to do a couple of quick full throttle, or at least close to it, runs. I don't know if the bike ever fully hooked up by about 4th gear. At which point i decided I was going fast enough and had to brake soon anyway. Plus I was opening a massive gap on everyone else in the group.

So brakes. It's got stock rotors, I don't know what it has for pads. Coming from four strokes I'm used to engine braking. Normally when i'm not pushing things i'll just chop the throttle slow down and enter the turn. Well, the 300 seemed to be interested in going much faster, even though i wasn't trying to. Did i mention the suspension made things smooth? This resulted in more then one "oh s**t turn!" moments. Like the handling, by the time my brain processed that i need to brake, i had the bike slowed down and was mid turn. They do an extremely good job at slowing down the bike, without ever being grabby or overpowering where it can cause a wash out.

The clutch is equally good. It is almost heavy, but in a good way. It's not the super smooth lifeless pull of the KTM, or the yank of the XR. You can tell that the lever is connected to something and in a way that gives you a lot of control and is extremely smooth. It's up there with the clutch of the trials bike. Not quite as much control, but not far from it. Without this clutch I don't think you could deal with the power of the 300 when things got real tight or nasty. Actually, it made it easy.

So how did this all work together? Better then you could imagine if you have never had a chance to ride one of these. The power will take some getting used to, and i'm out of shape from so much time off the bike and behind a desk. Everything became easy. Even starting after a fall wasn't so bad, usually firing right up on the first or second kick. If it didn't, i was tired and not really giving it a good kick. It made hills that would be mounted using a bunch of speed and brute force into a surgical affair, putting down power where and when i wanted to. Would of been a perfect clean run up the hill if i hadn't hit a rock and gone into a wheel and gotten scared and gone back into just get up it mode. One thing i'm not happy about is it did seem to suck down fuel. Looking at the markings on the left side of the tank it's reading like 3 liters. I thought i had it pretty full to begin with, something i'm going to pay attention to next ride. Also, it's got an LTR jet kit, and seemed to run about perfect, with quite a bit of splooge coming out the pipe. Gonna lean it out a hair (it's at 32:1 with motul 800) with the next fill up.

Wanted to finish this up with saying this bike is far and above anything else i have ridden. The KTM felt like a massive brute in comparison, and the XR just felt like a little pig. Once i'm used to it I think the power will be perfect, and once i'm in better shape, i won't be so sore, afterwards.
 
Switch to Motul 710, Golden Spectro or amsoil interceptor. 800 has too high of a flash point. That should decrease your spooge quite a bit.
 
Bryan glad you finally got a chance to take it out,you will get 60+ miles out of the stock tank,if you need more traction,swap a trials tire on it,you wont believe the grab,the front will come up everywhere,Im pretty sure that rear wheel has two rim locks already on the bike
 
I'll have to look next time i'm home. Also gotta change out the rotella i put in there, the clutch dragged something horrible. Thing would move pretty good when in gear with the clutch in, not ride around like the trials bike, but still move. Gonna try some ATF i got laying around for the beta.

As for range, I got out of 2nd gear for about 30 seconds yesterday, most of it is first gear stuff, into second sometimes. Atleast for now, i'll prob start doing more 2nd once i'm used to it. Would explain the lack of mileage.
 
Switch to Motul 710, Golden Spectro or amsoil interceptor. 800 has too high of a flash point. That should decrease your spooge quite a bit.

First I have heard of this.I thought the motul 800 ran cleaner?
Is the DE same as an EC spec?
 
My understanding is the DE is more like the XC model. It's an EC spec engine, with the motocross flywheel with a lighting coil and an FMF turbine core out back. Then most of the lights are removed.
 
Glad you got a chance to get out there already! Looks like you already love the DE, which is awesome. Sounds like the bike was well setup. I would def go to 40-1, that's what I run.

I tore it up behind my house some doing some testing on the EC.


How were the woods up at CATRA?
 
with the exception of some little spots of ice things really were perfect. I'll be back up this weekend if you wanna come up, should be totally clear by then. At some point before then i'll stop being sore, i hope.

And yes, I do love this bike and it's set up almost perfect. I need to figure out the front end thing where it likes to go air born if it hits a rock. The other thing is the sheer HP of this bike. There is no place in the rev band where it won't just go. I could probably be running in 4th through the woods (lets make the assumption it won't stall) and hit the throttle and it would still fly.


Oh, and what you mean "already" i bought this bike right around thanksgiving, and this was my first ride on it. I haven't ridden since the weekend before thanksgiving.
 
+1 on the Interceptor. The Castrol TTS seems to a good oil as well, burns very clean, not quite as clean as the Interceptor though.

Glad you like the 300!
 
I love it! just might need a few personal tweaks. With the exception of grips and a new countershaft sproket it's the same way i bought it from fury.
 
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