Valuation?

[jessvanilla]

I recently purchased a 2002 gas gas Pampera 280. I can only find one mention of an actual evaluation for this vehicle and that's from JD power and it says ridiculous numbers, I'm looking for a real life quote or if anybody actually has one that knows what it's worth. The bike is complete there's nothing missing it barely has any scratches on it it has the road lights. Can somebody give me a realistic number not the numbers from JD power?

First ten of vin VTRPP28020

 

[gasgasman]

The used bike market is totally crazy now.
Best thing to do is Do a search for models like yours (for sale) and set your price around those.

 

[jessvanilla]

The used bike market is totally crazy now.
Best thing to do is Do a search for models like yours (for sale) and set your price around those.

Thanks, not really trying to sell just actually wondering if it's collector value is what jd power says. It's the only place i can find a value and it doesn't seem correct. I can barely find any info on the bike at all.. including the pp code in the vin.

 

[slocalspode]

I recently purchased a 2002 gas gas Pampera 280. I can only find one mention of an actual evaluation for this vehicle and that's from JD power and it says ridiculous numbers, I'm looking for a real life quote or if anybody actually has one that knows what it's worth. The bike is complete there's nothing missing it barely has any scratches on it it has the road lights. Can somebody give me a realistic number not the numbers from JD power?

First ten of vin VTRPP28020

2002 on the left and 2005 on the right.
I have not looked @ J.D. Power, but if I had to take a guess I'd say between $1,500-2,000
Depending on condition and location.
There is not much demand for the Pampera. As far as I have been able source info, there
was only around 200 ever imported into the United States. Most were 280cc, but, some
were 250cc.
I have owners, parts manuals in .pdf files.
Let me know if you would like a copy.

 

[jessvanilla]

2002 on the left and 2005 on the right.
I have not looked @ J.D. Power, but if I had to take a guess I'd say between $1,500-2,000
Depending on condition and location.
There is not much demand for the Pampera. As far as I have been able source info, there
was only around 200 ever imported into the United States. Most were 280cc, but, some
were 250cc.
I have owners, parts manuals in .pdf files.
Let me know if you would like a copy.

Thank you. Any info you have would be great. I haven't been able to find anything yet. I know they are road legal but do you know how fast it can go? Sorry i know I'm asking a bunch. Check out jd power forthe 2002.. seriously its mind-blowing.

 

[slocalspode]

Road legal depends on where you live. In Kalifornia they are not.
Fast? A Pampera is not made for speed. The motor is derived form
the TXT Trials motor with taller gearing, by just a little.
I've seen one do 55 mph and a bit more. At that speed you are asking
for an early engine explosion.
There is one BIG problem with the Pampera. The stator is known for
running hot and failing. There are zero replacement stators in the USA
as far as I know. And they are discontinued form the OEM.
Jim Snell, (may he rest in peace), was the sole supplier of parts for the
Pampera.
PM me an email address and I'll forward those files.

 

[slocalspode]

JD Power = F'n ridiculous.!

 

[webmaster]

JD Power = F'n ridiculous.!

I think the sampling of sales prices is too small to have an accurate number. A very low volume production bike with very few imported into the united states.

I know a few people in the Pacific NW rode these and loved them for "extreme trail" riding. A trials motor and trails tires made it a "billy goat". I have gathered from posts here over the years that frame can use reinforcement if you intend to ride it hard... I did a quick google search and found this...

Pampera frame malarkey.

Mechanical failures are relatively rare on the AdventureRide fleet of Gas Gas Pamperas, testimony to the inherent simplicity and strength of the original Gas Gas design and hopefully an indication …

adventurerideblog.wordpress.com

 

[farmerj]

I have not looked @ J.D. Power, but if I had to take a guess I'd say between $1,500-2,000
Depending on condition and location.

I would echo this. It's not a "collector bike" in terms of having a lot of added value because of it's age or rarity, unfortunately.

Good "tight trail" bike I've heard, as mentioned above!

Jeff

 

[slocalspode]

There were a couple frame fractures I have heard of. The one I think everyone
posted about was Tami's Pampera during the Idaho SpodeFest. I was riding
in the same group with her. Her frame snapped about 3" back from the steering
head. They fixed it with box end wrenches and hose clamps. Enough to limp
back to camp. Maybe 15 miles or so.

I love my Pampera for tight single track and plonking around on forest service roads.
But, most of the time I choose the 2002 EC300 for trail rides. Except for the seat height
the EC will do everything the Pampera will.

One more issue some might not know about is starting the Pamp. It is tough to kick through
TDC and get it started. My old GF could stand on the kick starter and it would slowly drop
from pressure leakage around the rings.

I'am still willing to share the .pdf files for the Pampera. I just need an email address to send them to.

 

[webmaster]

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I'am still willing to share the .pdf files for the Pampera. I just need an email address to send them to.

One new section of this discussion software is the "resources" area. You can upload the pdf file there for all to see.

If you need any assistance, you can drop me a PM.

jeff

 

[coopernicus]

There are a couple of later Pampera 280s around Colorado for sale ranging from $1500-3000. The market is a little tough for selling everything now so they are staying on market. I have a Pampera frame sitting in storage that is full of cracks but I keep it because it has a street legal title (it's free to anyone who wants it). They are great little bikes but not meant for larger/heavier riders or for being ridden aggressively. As mentioned above, they are difficult to start because of compression/leverage.

Eric

 

[slocalspode]

I hope the uploads worked and I put them in the correct place.

I have lots of other GG related .pdf files of shop manuals and parts lists available.
Cheers. Jeff