For Fun: 2013 XC 300E Real World Weight

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phoenix

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Ever since I got this bike, I have thought "geez this thing is heavy." So we finally got to put it on a calibrated scale and I thought I would share this info just as a FYI.

2013 XC 300 Electric Start
1/2 tank of gas
Fluids (forks, transmission, etc.) at stock levels.
Stock skidder
Radiator Guards
Rekluse
Shorai Battery
Aluminum pipe guard
Full wrap hand guards

Everything else is pretty stock...

270 pounds.

We also weighed my husband's Husqvarna TXC 450 4 stroke, which is equipped almost the same except that it has a slightly smaller tank, stock battery, flexx bars and no kickstand...

275 pounds

I'm now curious what my Husky TXC 250 weighs, so I'll have to get that measurement once I'm finished rebuilding it. That bike is noticeably lighter.
 
All I really care about...Is I can still pick my bike up at the end of the day, when I'm near exhaustion. I've never been too concerned about the actual number, but how the bike feels while riding. If you want to know what a heavy off-road bike feels like...take a big-bore Yami IT for a spin:D I have a 1976 IT400
 
The extra weight compared to its competition in my opinion is a part of why Gas Gas bikes are so reliable, tractable, and don't ping off every bit of trail junk you hit.

It takes on some of the 4 strokes best quality's due to it's extra weight. Without the noise or high maintenance rebuild costs and complications associated with a valve motor.

We all know the 250\300 are great woods bikes. But really they are just as great used in the open desert.The straight line stability from a bike that turns so well is impressive and I really believe weight is key in how a bike handles and lasts.

The modern bikes keep getting lighter and more fragile all the time.Where does it end?

Keep it on 2 wheels and a Gas Gas feels lighter than most. I'll take a bike with a bit more weight if it helps the bikes traits and reliability and continue to.

Roscoe
 
hard for me to be concerned with the weight as I came from a well farkeled XR650R...so most anything thing is light now on trails. :)
 
REVERUP said:
The extra weight compared to its competition in my opinion is a part of why Gas Gas bikes are so reliable, tractable, and don't ping off every bit of trail junk you hit.

It takes on some of the 4 strokes best quality's due to it's extra weight. Without the noise or high maintenance rebuild costs and complications associated with a valve motor.

We all know the 250\300 are great woods bikes. But really they are just as great used in the open desert.The straight line stability from a bike that turns so well is impressive and I really believe weight is key in how a bike handles and lasts.

The modern bikes keep getting lighter and more fragile all the time.Where does it end?

Keep it on 2 wheels and a Gas Gas feels lighter than most. I'll take a bike with a bit more weight if it helps the bikes traits and reliability and continue to.

Roscoe
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Like I said in the title, it was just for fun and I'm not bashing my bike. I really love this bike and it has many advantages over my 250 (most notably that it starts consistently. lol). It definitely feels lighter in motion than both the 250 and the 450.
 
Wow that's 20 pounds more than I would have guessed. I sold my 2009 TXC510 because it was just to heavy. I would like to know what your TXC250 weighs when you get it back together. Thanks for posting up the real weights.
 
Not surprised. I posted 258 for a similarly equipped '12 with a dry tank, so the difference is in the 10 or so pounds of fuel and the Rekluse.

What's important is how it feels on the trail - light and nimble ;)
 
desertgasser300 said:
AHHHHHHH....No more weight threads!!! :D:D:D
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I'm with you this weight obsession is getting old. If your dirt bike doesn't weigh at least twice as much as you do you should be able to easily pick it up off the ground. I've never heard any weight complaints about yz250s. I'd bet you money that my 2011ec250 would be within 5-8 pounds of a yz if I took all the extra stuff off and changed out the tires and tubes for the ultralite stuff that MXers come stock with. My bike would be about 215 pounds without fluids if I did all that. Fluids add 23lbs (2.5 gal fuel = 16lb, trans oil & break fluids = 2lb, water and suspension fluid = 5lb)
Bottom line is any full sized woods bike ready to ride with a side stand, head light, full wiring harness, heavy duty tires and tubes, electric start, battery, trail tech computer, built in bike lock, skid plate, pipe guard, and bark busters is going to weigh more than 260lbs no matter who makes it.
 
Does anyone know what a 12 300 without electric start and no add ons weighs??????????????? They sure are sexy. I have not got to ride my new 12 300 much, but after riding Husky 150's for the last 2 years I can say I jumped on the bike and felt right at home and a HUGE HUGE improvement over the old generation (11 and prior) Gassers. Well we will weight and see what happens. If for some reason I am slower on the 300 then the 150 I will have to do something.....................
 
Roscoe is correct, and I've said this before as well. They are a little heaver but they are tough. One of my buddies that has had nothing but KTMs for awhile commented on how his new pumpkin has such thin and fragile brackets, mounts, etc. and stuff is always bending. Nothing is free guys, its all an engineering compromise.
 
gasser said:
I'm with you this weight obsession is getting old. If your dirt bike doesn't weigh at least twice as much as you do you should be able to easily pick it up off the ground. I've never heard any weight complaints about yz250s. I'd bet you money that my 2011ec250 would be within 5-8 pounds of a yz if I took all the extra stuff off and changed out the tires and tubes for the ultralite stuff that MXers come stock with. My bike would be about 215 pounds without fluids if I did all that. Fluids add 23lbs (2.5 gal fuel = 16lb, trans oil & break fluids = 2lb, water and suspension fluid = 5lb)
Bottom line is any full sized woods bike ready to ride with a side stand, head light, full wiring harness, heavy duty tires and tubes, electric start, battery, trail tech computer, built in bike lock, skid plate, pipe guard, and bark busters is going to weigh more than 260lbs no matter who makes it.
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Maybe so many people are obsessed with weight because GasGas publishes 224 pounds as dry weight for all their 300s whether they have an Estart or not, and if you add your 23lb number that's 247lbs which is a long way from 270lbs. A few little add-ons like a Reklus are not going to add up to to that difference. 270lbs is 450/500 smoker territory. It's no wonder GG 2Ts track well.
 
I've had many folks ask me what my 12 250 ES weighs & I tell them all the same thing; about 260# or more, as it sits ready to ride. Some guys get wide eyed at that. Who cares, it's the best dirtbike I've ever ridden. Also, I can still pick it up fine when I fall down.
 
3beejay3 said:
I've had many folks ask me what my 12 250 ES weighs & I tell them all the same thing; about 260# or more, as it sits ready to ride. Some guys get wide eyed at that. Who cares, it's the best dirtbike I've ever ridden. Also, I can still pick it up fine when I fall down.
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A few years ago I road a modified '99 BMW 1100GS on trails for a while. It weighed about 500lbs. I could pick it up when I fell, which was fairly often. Didn't have a choice you know. I wouldn't have added "fine" to it but.. So if that is the indication of acceptable weight then there is lots of room to move. ;)
 
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I was curious to compare apples to apples rather then light weight MX KTM to and Enduro GasGas and asked if anyone had weighted their KTM 300XC or XC-W on another forum. I got this. No Linkage so you an add at least 5 lbs.

>>Just weighed my 2006 300 XCW. gassed up, head and tail light, battery, Scotts Damper, Hand guards with shields, iPhone mount.

248 lbs.

Edit: also has a skid plate, radiator guards, and rear disk guard. <<
 
I weighed my 2011 300 Six Days last summer on a certified scale, where I work, large enough to fit both wheels on with a full tank of fuel it came in at 253 lbs. That is with stock Metzlers and Tubliss system both ends, FMF Gnarly pipe, Cycra Pro Bend hand guards, Trail Tech Vapor and the cross bar removed from the Renthal bars. I was surprised (and happy) it came in under 260. I bought this bike thinking it weighed 220 dry. so IMO it's in the ballpark of the Katoom.
 
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When you strip all the extra stuff off, the Gasser is right there with every othe two stroke. I rode KX250s(two strokes) for a long time and their dry weight was 229 Ilbs, so with fluids and no extras they are the same as a Gasser.

If I hadn't read through all these weight threads I would swear that my 2011 300 feel like it weights around 235. I blitzed through 32 miles of single track today without a problem. If I would have been on a 450 4 stroke, I would have needed someone to carry back to the truck.:eek:
 
byost said:
I weighed my 2011 300 Six Days last summer on a certified scale, where I work, large enough to fit both wheels on with a full tank of fuel it came in at 253 lbs. That is with stock Metzlers and Tubliss system both ends, FMF Gnarly pipe, Cycra Pro Bend hand guards, Trail Tech Vapor and the cross bar removed from the Renthal bars. I was surprised (and happy) it came in under 260. I bought this bike thinking it weighed 220 dry. so IMO it's in the ballpark of the Katoom.
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Is that an EStart and linkage bike? If so then yes it is in the ball park. But then what park is the 270lb 300 in?
 
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