Gasgas or Husqvarna
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arminhammer
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I own a 13 Beta 300 and my wife has a 18 ec 250. I rode a 18 tx300 last year more than enough to know that the only thing it has over the Beta or the Gasser is the counter balancer.
Cactus_Flat
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Here's a thread with some relevant comparisons to your questions:
http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23186
I've not ridden the '18 Gassers, though I am dying to try one out. I have ridden a couple TX 300s and they are really good bikes. Good like, I need to give this bike back before I go out and buy one, good. Very smooth and light and I was quite impressed with the stock air fork. That said, the author of the thread I linked gave the nod to the gasser, so that's saying something. If I were in the same position it would be a very tough choice. I'd say the biggest draw back that I can see of the gasgas compared to the Husky is the e start, which seems rock solid on the austrian bikes, seems to be a bit mixed on the gasgas, but again, I have no first hand experience.
http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23186
I've not ridden the '18 Gassers, though I am dying to try one out. I have ridden a couple TX 300s and they are really good bikes. Good like, I need to give this bike back before I go out and buy one, good. Very smooth and light and I was quite impressed with the stock air fork. That said, the author of the thread I linked gave the nod to the gasser, so that's saying something. If I were in the same position it would be a very tough choice. I'd say the biggest draw back that I can see of the gasgas compared to the Husky is the e start, which seems rock solid on the austrian bikes, seems to be a bit mixed on the gasgas, but again, I have no first hand experience.
CDN Rick
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I'm the other way as I've ridden the Gasser but not the newer Husky.
I rode the Gasser and in 5 minutes had decided I had to purchase one...
I've heard the e-start on this new bike is great once the quick "recall" wire change was done that came out within the first few weeks of shipping. The one I rode was flawless at cold and warm.
CDBiker220
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I rode a 2018 GasGas EC300 and the 2018 Four stroke FE and FX. I already knew I love the GasGas 300 motor but the KYB suspension is just perfect combined with the lower weight compared to the 2017. The FX husky was way too harsh and the FE was too soft. The KYB suspension on the GasGas was super plush but sucked up huge hits. For this alone I would go with the GasGas.
Cactus_Flat
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I'm the other way as I've ridden the Gasser but not the newer Husky.
I rode the Gasser and in 5 minutes had decided I had to purchase one...
I've heard the e-start on this new bike is great once the quick "recall" wire change was done that came out within the first few weeks of shipping. The one I rode was flawless at cold and warm.
That's good to hear about the e-start. I heard about the fix but it seemed the airwaves went silent after that came out, which must have meant it worked and people were riding instead of posting.
I'll also say that even though the I was impressed with the husky airfork, I'd still favor a set of KYBs.
VxZeroKnots
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I've seen a few of the new gassers at some of the hard enduros i've gone to this year and they all seem to have issues with the estart.
CDN Rick
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Before or after the wires were changed out to the larger gauge?
Gas Gas. There are many threads on this forum about the KYB fork swap. There are many threads on the beta forum about the KYB fork swap. There may be a lot of threads on the KTM forum about the KYB swap (I don't read that forum). People are paying 1500 bucks for del saggio suspension inserts which look like a trick slightly upgraded KYB fork insert. You might as well skip the middle man and just buy a two stroke with KYBs.
Gas gas has had problems with their E-Start since at least 2011 (That is the year of gas gas I own) so to hold the e-start against them now would just be disingenuous.
Gas gas has had problems with their E-Start since at least 2011 (That is the year of gas gas I own) so to hold the e-start against them now would just be disingenuous.
CDN Rick
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How is that disingenuous? If I'm payin that kinda money for a motorcycle with decades old technology on it, I expect that technology to work properly. I don't feel like that's asking too much.
I'm under the impression that since the fix was found for the '18 gassers people have not experienced any electric starting problems. But if that isn't the case I'd like to hear differently.
Disingenuous like:
My ktm boils over after ten minutes!
The Sachs suspension on my beta is shit!
My Harley leaks oil!
We have got to stop acting surprised about well documented issues. My 2011 gets started in the morning with the kicker and then the rest of day it starts with the button. The 2018 starter issue was documented in a thread that is now closed. People who like the bike know the starter is an issue.
Just yen it out.
My ktm boils over after ten minutes!
The Sachs suspension on my beta is shit!
My Harley leaks oil!
We have got to stop acting surprised about well documented issues. My 2011 gets started in the morning with the kicker and then the rest of day it starts with the button. The 2018 starter issue was documented in a thread that is now closed. People who like the bike know the starter is an issue.
Just yen it out.
CDN Rick
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VxZeroKnots
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I didn't know that was a thing so I didn't ask, I will at the next one.
CDN Rick
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Thanks, I'd love to know the answer to that.
Apparently what happened is that the ground? (i think) wire was of too small of a gauge to allow the amps to flow through the starter to spin the motor. Once the wire was changed out to a larger size the current flow was sufficient to spin the engine.
Also, many people aren't aware that lithium batteries cannot go from cold and unused to full amperage flow without being "primed" first.
I was actually just having this conversation with a member on another forum. He was unaware of this specific downside to lithium batteries in cold weather.
I heard an anecdote from my buddy whilst out riding yesterday on my '18 EC250 (he on his shop demo '18 EC300) -
A un-named Australian pro rider rode an '18 EC300 recently & said the stock supension was better out of the box than his full factory Mattighofen rig.
My bike has 8hrs & starts every time on the button, in or out of gear.
The suspension is awesome. I don't know what the clickers are at, I haven't checked & I don't care.
I was a Beta fanboy (I had KYB's up front on my '14 RR300) til I bought an '18 Gasser. Never liked 'em before - suspension, funky riding position, heavy, etc.
Best bike I've had.
A un-named Australian pro rider rode an '18 EC300 recently & said the stock supension was better out of the box than his full factory Mattighofen rig.
My bike has 8hrs & starts every time on the button, in or out of gear.
The suspension is awesome. I don't know what the clickers are at, I haven't checked & I don't care.
I was a Beta fanboy (I had KYB's up front on my '14 RR300) til I bought an '18 Gasser. Never liked 'em before - suspension, funky riding position, heavy, etc.
Best bike I've had.
CDN Rick
Silver Level Site Supporter
Thanks for the post. Also great to hear your starter works perfectly.
LM#O, I love that! Now I know what I have been doing wrong, I need to just ?yen it out?. Thanks for posting that just made my day!
Cactus_Flat
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Just yen it out, I have no idea what that means.
A working e start would be a big part of deciding to buy a new gasser or not for for me. I am fine with it as a "restarter" but when I'm stone tired teetering on a steep side hill, for 9K i'd like that button to work. I know you can kick it, I am on a kick start only bike now and I don't let that stop me from riding anything, but I paid a lot less for that kicker only bike...
Everything else about the gasgas has me drooling though...
hadfield4wd
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The GasGas starter is fine. No issues other than the initial wire gauge problem which has been resolved
CDN Rick
Silver Level Site Supporter
Glad to hear you agree!
I'll add that it has been found that if you replace the lithium ion battery from the new gassers with a cheaper alternative you will almost certainly experience negative side effects. 2 stroke motors require significant amperage to spin over due to typically not having a decompression system. If you ever decide to change your battery out a high quality unit will be a must. I only know this because of some testing a friend did.
