Gasgas Vs Beta

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nato

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Well I have been toying with the idea of jumping ship to a beta 300 from my gg300 and im wondering if anyone here has or has any input on the idea? I have seen the beta in action and the build quality and ease of access under the seat and what not looks great. Fuel economy on the beta was the same as my gg. And I know the weight is less then the gg but honestly it doesn't bother me on the gg as I think it is what helps it stay planted so well.

Nato.
 
When you say fuel economy is the same, is that to say you both get the same amount per tank, or you both get around the same distance per litre?

For me, I don't have any dealer support with Beta at this end of the country otherwise I'd definitely consider one. Sachs boingers might not be as good as the zokes, but people are reporting no issues tuning them up and making them work. Have you considered the Sherco's too?
 
Yep tank for tank same k's. The 14 tanks are bigger than the 13's poor 7L or whatever it was and the 14 racing model comes with the 48 zokes anyway and elec start (which i know you love haha) I don't have a gg dealer so to me there would be no change as the closest gg dealer is also a Beta dealer.
 
In that case, I say why not? I like their engine design. Its like the best of gas gas and ktm combined, with a real starter that works. Nice tight tolerances right out of the factory. Light flywheel that spools up quickly! Sounds good to me!

They say a change is as good as a holiday. I don't think I would have stuck with Gas Gas if in a position with more choices. I simply upgraded because of an opportunity that presented. If paying new bike dollars for a new model, I'd be shopping around and choosing carefully for sure.
 
Well the Beta is a little lighter and the e start is better. Still if I had an estart gasgas I don't think I'd upgrade. What for?.. unless I just wanted to try it and that would be ok too. Gasgas is an excellent bike and Beta is too..from what I've heard it's very good. I'd go for those 2 brands before going ktm for sure. .but as it is with my cr honda and my 01 300 gasgas.. I'll upgrade to a Beta 300 as my next bike.. It's hard to let go of my bikes though. They work great. No e start though and I'm having knee problems..
 
I reckon the clincher will be the seat bar peg difference, I don't like the Ktm high peg/low seat flat straight bar off high triple clamps setup, and apparently the beta has higher pegs again. I like Japanese/gas gas/ tm roomier mid height bar and peg setup, I'm sure you get used to it though.
 
Thats a good point Simmo. And one I also agree with, however I think I prefer the 2013 chasis over the 2010 now I've got a few rides. Just seems to feel a bit easier to keep onself up in the attack position, probably due to the raised pegs, and slightly lower bars (no underbar damper).

Haven't had a chance to throw a leg over a Beta, but the ktm-bergs feel very much like a spaceship.
 
Coming off a 2011 GasGas 300 and onto a 2013 Beta 300 probably makes me qualified to answer. Over on the Beta forum, which is not yet near as good as this one, there are a lot of ex GG riders. Over on the cafe husky forum there is a very good as well as non biased test of the Beta 300 from a hard core Husky small bore guy. Who also happens to be a very knowledgable business owner?
Do your research, there is a lot of info out there. Those who bleed GG will never change, those that don't, well most will. The only thing I have heard of the new Sherco that could be considered bad is supposedly a lot of vibration. While the Beta is reportedly the smoothest out there. Given I wear what I ride, it's obvious what my choice was, but to each his, or her, own. Change, or at least the opportunity, in the form of high quality alternatives, is good.
 
I finally had the chance to see a beta 300 up close the other day on the trail. It was really nice looking and looked put together well. The owner had no complaints. he did have his q stealth cut down also. It was a nice looking bike overall. They are on the smallish side, like the older gassers. The owner was over 6' and had a guts tall seat and mentioned he still felt squished. Would I own one? Sure, but it isn't a bike I would get rid of my gasser for. But deep down inside I know if I had the funds I would be a bike horder!!!

One thing that is puzzling is, Shouldn't the beta or other brands be getting better mileage since they are lighter then the gasgas?


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nato said:
Well I have been toying with the idea of jumping ship to a beta 300 from my gg300 and im wondering if anyone here has or has any input on the idea? I have seen the beta in action and the build quality and ease of access under the seat and what not looks great. Fuel economy on the beta was the same as my gg. And I know the weight is less then the gg but honestly it doesn't bother me on the gg as I think it is what helps it stay planted so well.

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If you really want a change I think you should look more closely at the Sherco. We just got out first demo 300 2T and it is really good. Check out the comments on it at the Sherco forum from some guys who rode it this weekend. wwwshercoforum.com Support from the factory is excellent and they keep a ton of parts in stock.
 
Back in Oct I was in the market for a new 14 GG300 to replace my 11 WR 300 Husky,and no word from GG when the 14s will show up if ever! I then contacted both Beta Dealers here in NJ ,one dealer never returned either of my calls ,and the other had a new 14 300 but do to an issue with the NJMVC he had to hold new vehicle sales. I then contacted Beta direct to ask if they will sell me direct and that i have a NJ dealer licence. They said no ,, so I ended up with a new KTM 300XC which was the last bike on my list and my first KTM( although its an AMAZING machine!)
 
braddenning said:
Back in Oct I was in the market for a new 14 GG300 to replace my 11 WR 300 Husky,and no word from GG when the 14s will show up if ever! I then contacted both Beta Dealers here in NJ ,one dealer never returned either of my calls ,and the other had a new 14 300 but do to an issue with the NJMVC he had to hold new vehicle sales. I then contacted Beta direct to ask if they will sell me direct and that i have a NJ dealer licence. They said no ,, so I ended up with a new KTM 300XC which was the last bike on my list and my first KTM( although its an AMAZING machine!)
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That is just amazing. I've abandoned the piss poor service of Dealers a long time ago. I just drive out of state for the cheapest OTD price. There are some good dealers, but they are outnumbered by a large margin.

I was set on a 14 GG250 based on a rumor that there was going to be an approx 12-15 lb loss. I'm disappointed to hear it is only about a 4lb loss.
 
I have a '12 GG 250 ES. If I was to upgrade, I'd have no issue getting a '14 GG, as they have such a good chassis & I love the engine. The incremental upgrades are icing on the cake.

The Betas are nice, but not nice enough for me to want switch.
 
I like that my main dealer nearby is a Beta dealer...but I picked the Gas Gas to be different. I bought new so price was not an issue and I have no loyalty on brands and tend not to fall for the mine is better hype. I think they all have their pluses and minuses.

I probably would look at a Sherco because they look neat and not many out there, again to be different but I have 6 to 7 more years I also don't buy just to have the latest bike.
 
Don't take this wrong....but isn't there already a long thread about this same topic?

I'm backing Clay up here. Sherco's sound like a great bike. They have taken a lot of the GasGas old best employees and engineers who made the bikes we love and are now on the road to making a killer 2 stroke!!

I would definitely be talking to Clay about a Sherco if I was looking for a new bike!!!


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I think if I ever "upgrade" from my 2010 EC250 it will either be another GG or a Sherco.

Those Beta's sure are good looking bikes though:

http://classifieds.pennswoods.net/classifieds/viewad.cgi?adindex=2729997

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I'm excited to get a ride on the Sherco, and I have no doubt they'll be the first to roll out an injected 2 banger. They have some good things going for them however I think based on what I read that they will be a bit docile. Maybe not the right word, but smooth to the point of unexciting. Also while the electronically controlled PV being linked with the ignition timing is a great idea for performance, what maintenance/issues will they have with it down the track?
 
braddenning said:
thats sweet!!!!!!!!!
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Different strokes for different folks. The 3-4 different shades of red makes the bike look a little weird to me but would be an easy fix - replace seat cover and wrap forks with carbon fiber graphics would make this bike look great. IMO
 
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