I have a 2011 KTM 300xc and a 2006 GG 300 and don't really notice the physical size difference that some people talk about. I had a chance to try a KTM 200 and noticed right away the physical size difference. The 200 felt smaller and more compact. Being 150lbs. I liked it. My question, is the GG 200 smaller in the same way the KTM 200 is smaller. I'm looking for a lighter bike but don't want another KTM.
GG 200 size
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noobi
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No, the gasgas 200 shares its chassis with the 250 and 300. IMO the 07 and newer feel smaller than the 06 and older. So maybe trying an 07 or newer model might be what you're looking for.
Only the gasgas 125 has the smaller chassis like the ktm 125/200.
thumperrider1
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Im 150lbs as well and would have considered a 2012 200 if it were smaller like the ktm.
Caravan Monster
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On the subject of the EC 200, I'm considering buying one, but have 3 questions:
1. I already have a 2006 EC 300, which is a brilliant bike, but I find it exhausting for local club hare and hounds because it pulls so hard right off tickover. Would the 200 be a lot easier to ride, or should I stick with my TM 125 for racing ?
2. Does anyone know if there was an EC 200 model produced in 2010 (europe / uk market). I can't find any reference to it on any of the Gas Gas sites ? I have the frame number if that helps i.d. the bike in question.
3. The bike has Sachs forks and shock. I'm a novice racer - will the sachs be noticeably different to the marzocchi / ohlins on my '06 ? I generally find soft settings on the shock and lighter oil / bigger air gap in the forks work well on most bikes
1. I already have a 2006 EC 300, which is a brilliant bike, but I find it exhausting for local club hare and hounds because it pulls so hard right off tickover. Would the 200 be a lot easier to ride, or should I stick with my TM 125 for racing ?
2. Does anyone know if there was an EC 200 model produced in 2010 (europe / uk market). I can't find any reference to it on any of the Gas Gas sites ? I have the frame number if that helps i.d. the bike in question.
3. The bike has Sachs forks and shock. I'm a novice racer - will the sachs be noticeably different to the marzocchi / ohlins on my '06 ? I generally find soft settings on the shock and lighter oil / bigger air gap in the forks work well on most bikes
noobi
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1. The 200 has no where near the same low end pull of the 300, and I find it very easy to ride for 6+ hour enduros or 3 hour cross countries. However, those TM 125s seem to be pretty race bred to start with. I don't know if it would be a better race machine.
2. Yes, there was definitely a 200 in 2010, 2 friends of mine have them.
3. The sachs forks are a bit quirky, but from what iv read as long as you're careful with how you go about working on them you should be ok, they are not fundamentally different to other OC forks. They use 7mm id shims. Sachs shocks are find also, been on gasgas' since 07' in a lot of bikes, and in Huskys for a while too.
Caravan Monster
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Cheers for the advice Noobi. I've told the seller I'm going to pass on this bike and wait for an older marz / ohlins one to show up. For some reason Gas Gas didn't bring many later 200's into the UK, so it may be a waiting game. When you look at how popular the KTM 200 EXC is over here, especially at local level racing, it seems strange that other manufacturers don't produce 200 cc bikes. The E1,2 & 3 formula may work for professional riders in a worldwide arena, but 200 2T and 250 4T are where it's at for average competitors racing at local level in the UK
Jakobi
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Nothing wrong with the 48mm Sachs. Alot of people here would take them over the 45mm Zokes.
I have a 2010 EC300 runnning the Sachs/Ohlins setup and have been more than pleased with them. Added a few more mm air gap to them at first service and thats that. Haven't even felt the need to revalve. They are a bit quirky with parts availability but as stated are similar to any other OC fork.
I'm personally considering adding a 2012 EC200 to the stable aswell. 48mm CC Zokes and Ohlins 888. I'm excited!
I have a 2010 EC300 runnning the Sachs/Ohlins setup and have been more than pleased with them. Added a few more mm air gap to them at first service and thats that. Haven't even felt the need to revalve. They are a bit quirky with parts availability but as stated are similar to any other OC fork.
I'm personally considering adding a 2012 EC200 to the stable aswell. 48mm CC Zokes and Ohlins 888. I'm excited!
Pepperami
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2005 EC200 is the way to go easy to ride, very light. Get the suspension set up right and happy days. I find mine still quite torquey and a good hit in the middle/top. I'm a real novice and it's not at all intimidating and it's better than I am! My ability is growing with this bike. Love it!!!!!
Caravan Monster
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Good to know a UK rider gets on well with the 200 on our terrain. I'm hoping the Gas Gas might be a bit like the KDX 200 everyone had in my youth (but without the twisty forks and expensive parts
) I owned two - they were a cool bike in their day. I was impressed by this skilled rider racing a KDX in a hare scramble in 2011http://youtu.be/tu2XbtT9xKg
Caravan Monster
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I'm looking for a really easy to ride bike in the hope of increasing skill and confidence to the extent that I could ride some of the longer traditional timecard events (with a chance of finishing) before I get too old. I'm not a naturally talented rider, and normally carrying work injuries, so my fitness is not good, so aiming low and need a bike that can get me to the finish, rather than to a win. I like my EC 300 a lot, but as stated earlier, all that power is too punishing in a race context. Anyone else got opinions on the EC 200 ? Not 100% sure about it, maybe time to look outside the GG stable, or even think about the four stroke path ?
thumperrider1
New member
John,
Mine comes in hopefully late Feb so you can ride it and decide, "yeah I knew I wanted the 250".
Why ride a 200 when you have the 144..........
Mine comes in hopefully late Feb so you can ride it and decide, "yeah I knew I wanted the 250".
Why ride a 200 when you have the 144..........
Thanks for the offer! Yeah I keep telling myself the 144 and 200 are going to be so close I should get the 250 this time and may do just that. I'm going to get the Husky WB165 set up for my 144 and that would make them (165/200) even closer so it really doesn't make sence to go 200. I know you can't wait to get your 250 they are sweet looking bikes!
thumperrider1
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The 165 would be awesome. Yep, I can't wait. Especially after all the new pics started popping up.
Caravan Monster
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That may be the answer - never owned one, I'll see if I can try one out. Certainly easier to find than a 200.
