GG enduro or MX?

[wiking]

First of all let me introduce myself. I am a complete newbie in the GG world. I am a Honda XR650R (BRP) rider and live in Denmark. I am looking for a GasGas EC 250 or 300 as I have started doing some enduro races, where I find my BRP a bit too big in the tight stuff. My question to you guys is: What is the difference between the enduro and mx version apart from front and rear light? I talked to the Danish importer and he claims that GG does not produce MX bikes, but Enduros without lights So as he is informed there are no differences what so ever! But its hard to beleive to me Please let me know your experiences and sorry if this thread is places the wrong place.

Thanks in advance,

Jakob

 

[2 strokes 4 life]

He is wrong. Although he might not import the MX bikes. The MX bikes have a 2k2 ignition wihch is lighter and alot more snapy than the EC modle 2k3 ignition. They also have stiffer suspension, 19 inch rear wheel, higher compression head, and possibly some different reeds and carb settings. Other than that i think thats about it.

Depends on what you are racing. Wide open, sand, or not much tight stuff i would say MX Gasgas. Otherwise a EC250 or 300 will be fine. You can also put the 2k2 ignition on a EC.

 

[widebear]

2strokes pretty much covered the tech differences allthough some of the early euro mx;rs came with differant gear boxes. Your choice can pretty much be determined by your riding ability and fitness level. In comparing the 250 to the 300, the 250 can be ridden much more aggresivly, its more flickable and feels smaller and lighter than the 300, I have both a 250mx and a 300 de and i prefer the 250 to the point that I'm going to convert the 300 to a 250. If you weigh more than 85 kg go for the mx'er as it has better suspension and spring rates as for power delivery you can allways purchase a heavy flywheel weight or 3k ign for mud races.If you want something mellower that comes with with all the elec wiring to run lights and such get the ec. Either way you wont be dissapointed the gassers are awesome bikes.

 

[skid jackson]

BRP??
Big Red Pig??

 

[2 strokes 4 life]

Yes you got it. Thats what al 600 and bigger XR and XL riders call their bikes for the most part.

 

[Skidad]

They get the bigger 50mm forks, MX silencer and possibly the 2K1 ignition with no lighting output at all. Not sure about that one though.

 

[wiking]

Thank you for all your answers.
@2 strokes: I just knew that he was wrong, but he is probably right when he told me that mx and enduro uses the same gearbox on the newer models. I am looking at a year 2005 250 MX. BTW how do I check that it is a year 2005when its a mx bike without any papers?
@widebear: Right now I have my Honda XR650R which I can't drive aggresivly enough. I like the high revs, so 2-stroke is back in my life. My excause for the bad handling of the Honda is its weight, but probably I am just not good enough to handle it . I also have an old 2-stroke Yamaha DT125R with only 26 bhp. This one I can handle much easier (and even go faster on - only in the tight stuff) because of its weight, so I am sure that a GG will suit me and make me smile. My weight is only 76 kg and I am 191 cm.

Though I must say that I love my Big Red Pig as well. Its big, mean and have an awesom grunt. I have just experienced that its impossible to find the perfect multipurpose bike, so we need more bikes...

 

[2 strokes 4 life]

Look on the sterring tube on the frame, top engine mounts, frame rail coming down from sterring and a few other places i dont know of, and i hope this helps.

 

[PEB]

The mc has the smallest weight on the clutch side of the crank as well.

 

[Jim Cook]

The mc has the smallest weight on the clutch side of the crank as well.

Actually, the MC uses an aluminum spacer on the right side of the crank, instead of the 8 oz "balancer weight". (this rides on the crank in the place where the original counterbalancer drive gear rode on the pre-'99 models.)

My 2006 DE300 actually has a MC250 rear shock, the EC250 engine with the lighter ignition, 45mm Marrazocchi forks (that came on the EC), 18" rear wheel, and a 300cc cylinder, head, and piston.
It all came on the bike from the factory, except for the 300cc top end, which I installed when I first got the bike.
I think they built these bikes especially for the US market.

The earlier MC models came with a wide ratio 4-speed transmission. The MC frame doesn't have the steering head lock.

The 250cc is easier to race in the tight woods than the 300, as it doesn't break traction as easily in the transition from low rpms to mid-range. They have the same top end power.

Jim

 

[wiking]

Again thanks alot for all your answers. I ended up buying a 300 EC year 2008 today from a friend. Its well maintained and I payed ½ price of what he paid for it from new . Think we will be happy together. Will pick her up the day after tomorrow, which is too long time from now