Is Marzocchi going to be bought up ?

barossi73 said:
pretty sure yamaha bought kyb some years ago.wether one fork is better/worse is only opinion/heresay.
the key is that yamaha/kyb are very good at setting their bikes up so out of the box they get a good rap.
seems to me that others get good results out of zokes/sachs etc after some fettling.
in other words yamaha/kyb make a crucial first impression,then word of mouth spreads,generating good feedback,before you know it we all believe.
this doesnt nec mean its better,just better set up for a majority of riders from new
my gut tells me to avoid airforks until they have a proven track record.air is harder to contain under pressure than oil,and generates a lot of heat.air preload was used on suzuki pe models circa 1980 and needed close monitoring to keep the desired press and the press the same between forks
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Yamaha does not own KYB. They may have some interest in the company but they do not own them. Remember KYB is a huge corporation that makes shocks for most auto manufacturers. Also if Yamaha owned them I'm sure we wouldn't see their forks on Hondas.

The deal with the air pressure rising during a ride is a phenomenon that 99.9% of us will never experience because we simply don't ride hard enough. I have never had the air pressure increase in my forks during a ride, not during a 3 hour GNCC and not during a 75 mile National Enduro. I purposely checked them as soon as the race was over and they hadn't moved!

People are scared of them because us silly humans don't like change! I don't see any real advantage to them but I also don't see any disadvantage. I was Leary at first and even looked into a swap but not that I have run them for a while, no worries.

Back on topic. How awesome would it be to see KYB or even Showa on the new gassers!?


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One advantage to air forks is the weight - not having those springs is a significant savings.

Seems like those in the know almost universally say the Yamaha traditional fork is a good deal better overall than any air fork being run right now.
 
CombatYoga said:
One advantage to air forks is the weight - not having those springs is a significant savings.

Seems like those in the know almost universally say the Yamaha traditional fork is a good deal better overall than any air fork being run right now.
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According to the handy dandy Wal Mart scales I now have to use to weigh my food, a stock Zoke spring weighs just a hair under a pound.

I can think of other places the bike can shed a few pounds and at far less expense. Good place to start is with the rider :)
 
Thanks Rod for clearing that up.so when other manuf use kyb,they're also supporting Yamaha.Honda must love that
 
I thought weight obsession was a females domain?
Us blokes should be concerned more with how th weight is distributed and if the curves are in the right places!I'm hoping Yamaha suspenders,and Suzuki needles!
 
Pretty sure the new WP front forks save 3-4 lbs. I cant remember exactly.

Save weight everywhere and oz's = lb's. I learned this with my lightweight backpacking. Every little bit counts. I don't think I'd notice much difference in 10 lbs but i would notice 30
 
hadfield4wd said:
Pretty sure the new WP front forks save 3-4 lbs. I cant remember exactly.

Save weight everywhere and oz's = lb's. I learned this with my lightweight backpacking. Every little bit counts. I don't think I'd notice much difference in 10 lbs but i would notice 30
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Ever play a pin ball machine?
 
Well as long as we are wishing ! How about a Smart Carb on each bike , Twisted engineering bars , a great suspension package , Tubliss , and much lighter wieght at a reduced price :D:D:D:D:D That would be awsum .
 
My buddy runs a smart carb and has to spray starting fluid in his bike at every cold start! Lol. He cracks me up has an A/F meter and spends all kinds of time dicking with it and now has to break out the Ether to get his bike started. We call it Smart Start fluid!


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I do not need smoke my doctor gave me lots of oxicontin 5mil. of that and nothin hurts at all ! Major surgery taught me alot about pain management . Now as far as dreaming I cant wait for me to be healthy again . I will be racing more this year by far than I ever have in my life . So all the things I am wishing for will be on my bike , but would it be cool if you could buy a bike done . Beta offers a build your own bike deal but I ride GasGas and like em . Since this post started with the front boingers I would like to see a great nonair fork .
 
Rod Overstreet said:
There was a story pop up on my LinkedIn last Thursday, stating the company had been sold and the workers jobs had been saved but it did not give any details as to the future product. I had to use Google Translation to read the write up, then when I came back to the story...it was gone. Stupid me didn't save the link and now can't find the story anywhere.

As for what suspension GG will use moving forward, I am told it will not be Sachs, and we should hear news of which brand will be used on the new bikes sometime in Jan.

For me, I was very vocal in requesting KYB front and rear BUT...I wouldn't be surprised to see Ohlins used.
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I thought you were confusing the marzocchi sale with the mountain bike stuff being picked up by fox - but someone just posted this article on the beta riders club forum...

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/m...-italian-manufacturer-vrm-buys-it-103299.html

jeff
 
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