OK Christophe Nambotin is leaving and goinig to KTM , who's taking his place and will they still be making a Nambotin replica? Ivan Cervantes is getting his butt kicked on the EC250 as he he is running it head to head against 450 four strokes , are the rumorus about a 350 4T true? If not what has GasGas got up their sleeve?
Ivan Cervantes and Nambotin whats up??
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swazi_matt
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Have also found the silence on this topic to be rather deafening!!
desertgasser300
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I'm not holding my breath.
Little off topic, I noticed both of you are from S.A. Did you ever catch the Red Bull Street Luge races in Cape Town? I wish I would have been into Enduro riding back then. South Africa looks like wide open spaces to ride.
Little off topic, I noticed both of you are from S.A. Did you ever catch the Red Bull Street Luge races in Cape Town? I wish I would have been into Enduro riding back then. South Africa looks like wide open spaces to ride.
Todd5774
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There is a privateer team 'FTO' who are running 2 gas gas bikes next year.
And also.
The Gas Gas Racing Team in the Enduro World Championship incorporated since last Grand Prix of Turkey and until end of season a new official rider in the absolute categories: Cedric Melotte, who enters the factory structure to ride the EC 250F in Enduro 1.
The popular Belgian motocross rider is an old acquaintance from fans of the Spanish firm, which has been linked with several seasons, first through the Belgian importer and, this season, as rider of Gas Gas Italy for the Assoluti. Melotte joined the official structure after two promising performances in the Grand Prix of Portugal and Italy and allows complete the representation of the mark in the three highest categories of the World Championship. The agreement between Gas Gas and the rider expected that follow riding at the Italian championship in E3 with the EC 300, as at present, and that the agreement with the Factory Team can be extended to 2012.
So looks like gas gas are keeping their official team under wraps for the moment, I'm sure I read somewhere that they were looking for a French rider, but I can't find the article.
And also.
The Gas Gas Racing Team in the Enduro World Championship incorporated since last Grand Prix of Turkey and until end of season a new official rider in the absolute categories: Cedric Melotte, who enters the factory structure to ride the EC 250F in Enduro 1.
The popular Belgian motocross rider is an old acquaintance from fans of the Spanish firm, which has been linked with several seasons, first through the Belgian importer and, this season, as rider of Gas Gas Italy for the Assoluti. Melotte joined the official structure after two promising performances in the Grand Prix of Portugal and Italy and allows complete the representation of the mark in the three highest categories of the World Championship. The agreement between Gas Gas and the rider expected that follow riding at the Italian championship in E3 with the EC 300, as at present, and that the agreement with the Factory Team can be extended to 2012.
So looks like gas gas are keeping their official team under wraps for the moment, I'm sure I read somewhere that they were looking for a French rider, but I can't find the article.
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He definitely needs to be running a 3 hunny
robszombie
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I've heard that Sebastien Guillaume will be leaving Husky & joining the GG team for 2012.
swazi_matt
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Have they not considered getting lampkin to race all the extreme enduros like Graham Jarvis has on the husa this year. I think the DVD sales are prob biggest from those types of events and douggie has shown what he is capable of at erzberg
Vindicator
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True, already official some weeks ago:
http://www.befurious.com/sebastien-guillaume-ficha-por-gas-gas-para-llevar-la-ec-300-de-nambotin/
Makes sense because the French market is crucial for GG and with Nambo gone...
The rumor is that Cervantes will for sure be riding a 4St next year, either with a new GG engine or with a Yamaha 450 last generation.
The 2012 EC300 Cervantes might make sense because that will probably be the bike he will use for 2012 FIM Super Enduro Championship (similar do Endurocross)
Vindicator
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With all due respect... Meo kicked his butt, with a 302cc 4 stroke Husky.
It's true that in today's Enduro tracks the 4ST have the advantage but Cervantes has put up a good fight. He missed 2nd place overall to Guerrero because he DNF the 2nd day at Greece...but Guerrero also DNF 2nd day at Spain... With a 4ST engine next year he will be a serious contendant to the title.
Nambotim had 2 DNFs, one in Turkey with a broken shock (same happened last year, GG should know better...) and another one in France. But Ahola does not makes mistakes.
Yip SA is a great place to ride , we have very little restrictions. Iam sure you have heard of "The Roof of Africa". The sport is quite well supported and we ride all year round because the weather allows us to. GasGas is definitely growing and with the new 2012 styling it will be giving the big orange competition a go for their money.
I still think Nambotim is talented and GasGas are loosing a great rider. I hope Cervantes gets a machine to match the 450 4strokes. He does ride the wheels of the 250 but it doesnt seem to match the 450. I do believe that he can win the world title on a GasGas! Cervantes did mention, on the FIM Enduro show, during an interview, that GasGas is working on a new bike for him, now that might be a bike worth waiting for and I wonder what it could be???? Hmmmmm
Again.... With all due respect... Meo kicked his butt, with a 302cc 4 stroke Husky, not a 450.
swazi_matt
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You see what i mean, kicked some good riders butts!! Get him to do all the big ones erzberg, hells gate, sea to sky, romaniacs, roof of africa. I really think this is where him and GG would shine
Vindicator
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Meo's 310 should have more or less the same horsepower of KTM's 350 witch has less 5/8 HP than a 450. It's not really the power that matters it's how progressive the engine is that reflects on better traction. I saw Cervantes at the FIM Enduro at Portugal, the Cross test was without a doubt made for thumpers.
Long straight lines from turn to turn and 3/4 jumps...
I really think GG could do better with a thumper engine, Cervantes and Nambotim proved they have speed and a competitive chassis.
I think Nambotim is leaving GG because he knows he can only win a tittle with a 4ST engine that GG does not have...yet. Also, I would be pretty pissed to fail my objectives due to mechanical issues that were clearly identified and not fixed. 2 broken shocks, countless chain guide issues (one even cost him a Junior World title to Joakim Lundgreen ) and limited R&D resources.
Part of this has changed since last year but the fruits will only be good to harvest in 2/3 years in a consistent way.
Jakobi
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Long fast straights between corners? Sounds like the kind of thing the 2T still does well. Point and shoot. Jumping ship to ride a 4T to win a title is ghey! Don't kid yourself..
Its all big business. People ride the bike that the company tells them (and pays them) to ride. You go with the company who offers the best package (money, benefits, and bikes). KTM has a nice big budget and by using it to keep the fast blokes riding and winning on orange ensures the average punter recognises the brand as the bikes of champions. Its all just good business.
Its all big business. People ride the bike that the company tells them (and pays them) to ride. You go with the company who offers the best package (money, benefits, and bikes). KTM has a nice big budget and by using it to keep the fast blokes riding and winning on orange ensures the average punter recognises the brand as the bikes of champions. Its all just good business.
biggstr6
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Thats what I'm thinking . Win on sunday Sell on Monday.
Someone posted here before that many of Nambo's DNFs were from his personal sponsors and not Gas Gas factory team parts. Not sure if it is true in every case? He was allowed to seek his own personal sponsors ie. chain guide sponsor and suspension supplier. Those two along with the chain he ran on his bike I believe were singled out and not used on the other team members bikes.
As far as Cervantes on 250 2t I think he just couldn't come to grips with the 250 power delivery and tractability. He was a big 250 4t guy when ktm built the dual cam 250 4t mx motor. Then I think he rode a 300 2t. I don't think he was really found of a 250 2t but Nambo was on the 300 so he had few options.
As far as Cervantes on 250 2t I think he just couldn't come to grips with the 250 power delivery and tractability. He was a big 250 4t guy when ktm built the dual cam 250 4t mx motor. Then I think he rode a 300 2t. I don't think he was really found of a 250 2t but Nambo was on the 300 so he had few options.