when you soak them don't soak them in a stack... you want oil all around them. i usually use a ziplock bag and move em around every 15 minutes or so, for an hour or 2. i dunno how long they really need to soak, but soaking them when they're not compressed in a clutch pack is the key. they need to swell a bit i would assume, or they'll just burn up when you slip them.. ice cream pail will work fine. just seperate the plates as best as you can.