Ohlins 888 shock

[Vindicator]

I'm starting this post hoping someone could give me some feedback regarding the Ohlins 888 shock that comes with the 11' XC.

1.
Is this the exact shock that comes with the bike ?

Please notice the black nob on the bottom to adjust rebound, is it the same on the 11' XC ?

2.
How good is it compared to the 2010/2011 Sachs ? Anyone has experience with both ?

3.
How good does it holds ? Takes long beatings without complaint or after it heats up loses too much efficiency ?

It would be great to have feedback from you guys, I'm kinda in a middle of a crossroad and I need to make a decision...

Thank you all.

 

[BrentMartell]

Looks about right. I have 3 rides, about 200 miles on mine and had issue's so the suspension is being rebuilt right now. Doing the shock tonight and am hoping the internals are actually high quality instead bottom of the barrel crap.

 

[Krieg]

Looks about right. I have 3 rides, about 200 miles on mine and had issue's so the suspension is being rebuilt right now. Doing the shock tonight and am hoping the internals are actually high quality instead bottom of the barrel crap.

What were the issues?

 

[Robby45]

I'm starting this post hoping someone could give me some feedback regarding the Ohlins 888 shock that comes with the 11' XC.

1.
Is this the exact shock that comes with the bike ?

Please notice the black nob on the bottom to adjust rebound, is it the same on the 11' XC ?

2.
How good is it compared to the 2010/2011 Sachs ? Anyone has experience with both ?

3.
How good does it holds ? Takes long beatings without complaint or after it heats up loses too much efficiency ?

It would be great to have feedback from you guys, I'm kinda in a middle of a crossroad and I need to make a decision...

Thank you all.

1. Looks like it. And yes, the rebound adjustment is just as pictured.

2. I don't have any experience with the Sachs.

3. As a mid-pack B rider, I notice no decrease in damping effect while riding.

I really like this shock. One thing to note is that as delivered, the rebound setting is 30 clicks out, pretty near the limit of adjustment. That works ok for me since I had to add a little rebound to make it a little less lively, but if you wanted to go the other way, you would be limited in adjustment.

 

[BrentMartell]

Mine hangs up on rebound and then does not fully extend. We are hoping it is just air that was not bled out properly from the factory. I can say that I raced the bike in a 100 mile desert race last weekend and the shock, other than kicking a bit do to this issue, seemed to be fine. I could hit stuff pretty hard with the rear end and also take on chop decently. After I get this and the forks straightened out I will test this weekend and pray I have a good set up. I ride A and generally finish in the top 5 in our desert series which is generally pretty fast stuff. There are a few sections with some gnarly rocky terrain and so far I have been pretty happy with the shock overall, it has not really pitched me off line or thrown me over the bars yet.

 

[Vindicator]

Thank you all for the input !

 

[BrentMartell]

Pulled the shock apart last night. Nitrogen was low. I thought Roger told me 120 but then later as we put it back together he said 140. Either way it was low. I am not certain if there was air in the shock or not, we just pulled it apart to look at the stack, valve, bushing etc. Installed new oil, bled it out, and put 160 psi nitrogen back in. Quality of the Ohlins internals looked good, and about 2 million times above the zoke forks (had to major work on those).

I put the forks and shock back on last night and today it is snowing, and the weather is supposed to get worse. Crap.

I will say the little back knob rebound adjuster is goofy, but the clicks are very audible, can hear them through my helmet, and feel them as well. If you position your handles correctly you can dial it pretty easy.

 

[mrkartoom]

. . . Quality of the Ohlins internals looked good, and about 2 million times above the zoke forks (had to major work on those).
. .

Curious what you found in the forks as far as quality issues and what you had to do to them?

I've been leaning toward a new 300 6-Days, but read the shock and the forks are not the top offerings from either manufacturer. That has me wondering if a Racing version with CC forks would be a better choice, even though I hear they are way stiff at delivery.

 

[Vindicator]

Curious what you found in the forks as far as quality issues and what you had to do to them?

I've been leaning toward a new 300 6-Days, but read the shock and the forks are not the top offerings from either manufacturer. That has me wondering if a Racing version with CC forks would be a better choice, even though I hear they are way stiff at delivery.

I heard a rumor the Zokes CC that come on the Race model are very similar to Kayaba's SSS...Would be nice to know how much of this is true. (sorry the off-topic)

 

[ggg]

I heard a rumor the Zokes CC that come on the Race model are very similar to Kayaba's SSS...Would be nice to know how much of this is true. (sorry the off-topic)

like any shock, give it to your sus tunner and it will be better, that ohlins model is a base range shock it does not have HS compression /rebound adjustments unlike other brands however the performance is good, ohlins dont make a crap shock that fades etc, my ohlins required the HS compression to be backed off as it ramped up to quick which was done by a good sus tunner and now its great

 

[Vindicator]

like any shock, give it to your sus tunner and it will be better, that ohlins model is a base range shock it does not have HS compression /rebound adjustments unlike other brands however the performance is good, ohlins dont make a crap shock that fades etc, my ohlins required the HS compression to be backed off as it ramped up to quick which was done by a good sus tunner and now its great

According to Gas Gas it has Low/High speed compression and rebound adjustment . I'm confused now

 

[ggg]

According to Gas Gas it has Low/High speed compression and rebound adjustment . I'm confused now

maybe the lastest model has the HS adjustment, mine doesnot 08 model.

 

[BrentMartell]

I am not sure what GGG said. The Ohlins does have High Speed, Low Speed, and rebound dampening like any of the shocks on the market today. 011 comes with a 5.2 spring, 30 clicks out on rebound, 16 clicks on LS compression, 1.5 on HS compression. The shock in stock form is actually pretty decent. Once I get my forks dialed in I will have a better feel for the shock but so far it is pretty dang good. We had too much snow this weekend for real good testing but I put in a 100 miles in a mix of small rough chop and big woops in the desert. We stayed away from the ice and snow covered rocks for a few very good reasons!

 

[Jakobi]

Where is the HS compression adjuster? Is it in the usual form. Ie the nut around the compression clicker.

Mine doesnt appear to be marked very clearly. Haven't really tried adjusting as of yet.

 

[MJC]

Where is the HS compression adjuster? Is it in the usual form. Ie the nut around the compression clicker.

Mine doesnt appear to be marked very clearly. Haven't really tried adjusting as of yet.

Yes, It's the 17mm nut around the LS compression clicker.

 

[Jakobi]

Yes, It the 17mm nut around the LS compression clicker.

Thanks mate. Will have a look soon.

Have been pretty happy with the way the rear has been tracking as is. Only complaint has been rear end kicking up over some larger logs and rocks on occassion. Added some more rebound damping and will see how it goes next ride. Probably more related to rider error than anything else

 

[bchatt]

Thanks mate. Will have a look soon.

Have been pretty happy with the way the rear has been tracking as is. Only complaint has been rear end kicking up over some larger logs and rocks on occassion. Added some more rebound damping and will see how it goes next ride. Probably more related to rider error than anything else

I would be inclined to back off the HS comp clicker, especially if you also find the rear kicks on harsh sharp bumps, when riding at anything over medium pace.

 

[Jakobi]

Thanks for the advice. The suspension has been quite compliant. Never tried to launch me over the hangers or swapped out to the side. Just lifting a bit more than I'd like. I'll only be making one adjustment at a time to grasp the effects.

Have started by slowing the action of the rebound 2 clicks.
Will try what you have suggested in speeding up the HS compression a little also.

 

[Bradtwocreeks]

Which way do we turn the rebound adjusting knob for increased dampening?

Thanks

 

[twowheels]

Which way do we turn the rebound adjusting knob for increased dampening?

Thanks

If you can fit your fingers in to get to the knob (which you likely can't unless you're a Liliputian) you can pretend its a throttle on a handlebar. Gripped in the right hand, rolling forward (less gas) is increased damping, rolling back like you're on the gas is less damping.