i guess what i was trying to get at is that the pampera frame, although different in appearance, does have the same, or close, frame geometry as a txt/trials frame, which would make it feel about the same as the txt frame. since you GMP have 1st hand experience, please let me know if this is correct. i am sure that it wont be exactly like a txt but i thought it was supposed to be much closer to a txt and much farther from an ec. thats what i kinda meant.
like the pampera is almost a txt with a seat and larger tank. when i reread my post, it sounds like a wise@ss, but thats wasnt my intent.