Some gas gas questions?

[ktmbigfan]

I'm thinking of jumping ship from being a loyall ktm rider. The current
crop of ktms are nothing more than motocross bikes with 18" wheels.

Gas Gas's have always intriged me. But before I commit I have some
questions.

1) I have a gpr stabalizer. Can I transfer it to the gas gas.

2) I've read that gas gasers are real thirsty. How many miles
can I expect to get from the stock tank. "de 300"

3) I will need to re-spring. Are springs readelly avail.

4) Is the ohlins front forks still avail? Are they worth the extra $$?

5) Are most of you satisfied with the stock flywheel weight. Slick woods
rideing.

6) How much should I expect to pay for an 07 300?

Ok so more than a couple questions. Thank in advance.

 

[gasgasman]

Yes. Jump ship.

1)Yes-with the GG mounts.
2)My 250 gets 65 miles per tank.
3)No. If you weigh 175lbs. Yes, if above.
4)Yes. Debatable.
5)Yes. Dual(switchable) mode ignition tames the hit.
6)$7,000+/-. Gas Gas will be offering financing for '07.

 

[cladoo]

You won't be sorry if you jump to GG.

 

[ktmbigfan]

Thanks guys. I suspect I'm just the gas gas kind of guy. Now the question is
250 or 300. I'm rideing an 04 450 mxc now. And rode an 02 250 exc smoker.
Before that. I never really learned to love the 4 stroke. Electric start is awsome. Makes great traction but fast rideing in the tight woods I was
defantly faster on the 250. My problem with the 250 was the lame lowend.
I tried pipes, reeds to no avail.

I'm a hard please. I want good lowend but just the right amount of power.
My 450 has too much power. My 250 had lame lowend but perfect mid and
upper. I should note I'm 210lbs no gear.

Is the 300 going to be to much power for me? I like the fact that with a 250
I can race the 250 class. The open class is getting too full now days.

Hows the lowend on the 250?

 

[MattR]

My friend has a KTM 250EXC and I know what you mean about no low end. His bike has an abrupt midrange hit that I did not like. My GG XC250 has a much better lower end and pulls very strong. My XC is like the newer DE's that are sold in the USA. These come with a smaller ignition which makes the bike more peppy. Flywheel weights are easy to add (spin-on nut style). I like a 10oz weight on mine. My bike feels like a hybrid... not XC and not EC but something in between. The FMF gnarly pipe and spark arrestor comes stock. This pipe helps the low end. Also invest in the LTR powervalve cover... another low end improvement.

By the way, GG's feel much lighter and flickable compared to the KTM. Both of my KTM friends agree. The KTM's feel longer which was confirmed when I had both my GG and the 250EXC loaded in my truck. The 250EXC was a least 1 to 2 inches longer in wheel base.

 

[tm_enduro]

Thanks guys. I suspect I'm just the gas gas kind of guy. Now the question is
250 or 300. .......My 250 had lame lowend but perfect mid and
upper. I should note I'm 210lbs no gear.

Is the 300 going to be to much power for me? I like the fact that with a 250
I can race the 250 class. The open class is getting too full now days.

Hows the lowend on the 250?

Some people like the 250 better, but I challenge you to find someone that can fault the 300. I like both of them.

 

[ktmbigfan]

Now I need to convince the wife. I bought a new street bike this year
and she just can't understand the differance between street bike and
dirt bike. All I get is "You just bought a new bike" Hey maybe she wont
notice the differance between orange and red.

 

[GMP]

I feel your pain.

Just bought a new VRod this year, so the idea of a new GG is not going to fly well. Oh well, doesn't hurt to try.

 

[skid jackson]

Better to ask to be forgiven, than to ask for permission!!

 

[jeffd]

Now I need to convince the wife. I bought a new street bike this year
and she just can't understand the differance between street bike and
dirt bike. All I get is "You just bought a new bike" Hey maybe she wont
notice the differance between orange and red.

Sorry to be nosey - I did a reverse lookup on your IP address - do you live in portland, oregon?

If yes, then hook up with jimmy (aka magellan) and I for a little ride. He has a 300 with the heavier ignition (kokusan 2k-3 ignition that also comes on some ktm models). He is now taking care of a newborn (his second) - maybe I can drag him out - if not, maybe I can borrow his bike... I am currently "gasgas-less" - just sold my '01 to "roostafish" here...

The stock DE (250 or 300) will come with a kokusan 2k-2 ignition by default - four flywheel weights are available (one from steahly). For an analysis of the flywheel effect of the various options - look at the technical article :

http://www.gasgasrider.org/html/flywheel_effect.html

With the lighter ignition - my choice for "browns camp" slick clay would be a 11 ounce (steahly) or a 14 ounce flyweel weight added - but that is personal preference.

Related to your question #2 above (gasgas being "thirsty") - it really depends on how you ride. Just as an FYI - Ron Black at RB-Designs (also in portland - actually in bonnie slope) modifies the head and dials in the squish band for better efficiency (cleans up running at bottom end and increases fuel mileage) Look in the tech articles of the website for details on this.

jeff

 

[tm_enduro]

... I am currently "gasgas-less" - just sold my '01 to "roostafish" here...
jeff

so what is next?

 

[jeffd]

so what is next?

I don't know - I still have an '04 honda xr280 for trail riding. Finances are tight for me right now - Depending on the financial situation after the first of the year - I would like to get another "big bore bike". My requirements are light weight, quick turning, torque motor, e-start not a requirement. Sounds like another gasgas ec300...

For the next few months I am going to focus on getting my ten year old daughter into riding - we got her a crf70 last year and I made the mistake of taking her out on a really hot day; I asked her to go out again with me and she wasn't interested. I want to get her out on the trails while it is nice and cool and dust is at a minimum..

jeff

 

[Eric K]

Jeff,

My daughter had little interest in riding, until she attended the Dirt Bike safety school course. She responded well to the instruction and really liked riding after that.

Part of it is getting dad out of the initial learning process.

After that, most of my coaching is to reassure her that "she can do it". As soon as she is past the mental part it goes well.

At 11 she can get around the loops at Jones creek on a TTR90 even when it is a bit wet and slippery.