09 EC250 Suspension

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I just got a 09 EC250 Racing with Sachs front and rear and found the forks to be really stiff. I have my compression all the way soft and it is still stiff. Any suggestions?

I am coming off a 05 EC200 with Ohlins front and rear.
 
The forks may need braking in some.

There is a preload adjuster on the top of the forks to soften them up.
 
I have about 20hrs on them.

Which is the preload adjuster? There is a screw on the top that is labeled R + and - which I assumed is rebound
 
Top screw adjuster is rebound.
Bottom is comression.

The internal hex head on the top in the preload.
 
Hi Guys,
I Just Bought Myself A New Ec 300 09 And Could Use Some Help With The Rear Suspension. Would It Be Easy To Give Me The Standard Settings For It As The User Manual Is A Little Confusing???
Thanx
 
As posted for another thread.

The factory guys told me to leave the preload alone. What they told me is to remove the bottom shim stack from each fork. Take the nut off and remove ONE of the three large shims from the stack. Keep the shim handy because you might want to put it back in once the forks have broken in. They claim it takes 20 to 30 hours before the forks fully break in (Sacks). Also you need to take out the top space an mill 4mm off of it and mill a little out of the shoulder of the cap. This gets the fork to settle down into its stroke alitte bit. To turn the preload adjuster (if you must) Just find a nut that is the correct size. I would contact Mark at GoFasters. They should have a video of all of this.

Brian
 
Ohlins is no magic bullet. A fork is only as good as the setup. I have ridden Ohlins that were set up awful.

Basically what Brian is saying is they are reducing preload via shortining the spacer, and reducing low speed compression damping by removing the face shim.
 
Thanks guys. Always a wealth of knowledge out here. Anyone have the manual.

I wasn't able to get anything out of Mark so I tried the preload adjustment and the forks softened up quit a bit. The preload was all the way tight from the factory is that how it comes? I have the preload backed off 3/4 from full tight with compression full soft and rebound full slow. The rear sag is at 120 with the low speed set full soft and full slow. I've probably got about 25 hrs on them and they seem to be getting smoother

Help with the valving would be greatly appreciated
 
Arizona's currently #1-rated A-rider in our rocky enduro series picked up an EC250 Racing (former KTM owner). He loves the firmness of the suspension, but he is really, really, really, really fast.

If you are not really, really, really, really fast and you own or want to own the EC250 Racing, you'd be wise to consider a re-valve of the EC250 Racing from LTR (or just buy a standard EC250).
 
Ohlins is no magic bullet. A fork is only as good as the setup. I have ridden Ohlins that were set up awful.

Basically what Brian is saying is they are reducing preload via shortining the spacer, and reducing low speed compression damping by removing the face shim.

I'll re-iterate what Glenn said. Ohlins is not the answer. In fact, I almost bought a new bike specifically for the Sachs suspension. The 09 I rode in Greece was absolutely perfect. Now it stands I'll get a 2010 or leftover 2009 at the end of the year.
 
After some testing I got the suspension working alot better. I know I was told not to mess with the preload but that seemed to have helped alot. The preload screw was all the way in so I backed it out and turned my compression full soft and rebound full slow.

That made the forks a little too soft and I ended up tightening the preload to stiffen then adjusting the clickers. I currently have the comp @ 4 off full soft and rebound 6 off full slow.

The rear shock feels great and I just set the preload to 120mm and moved the clickers a little.

It seems like the preload on the forks was causing my extreme harshness. Before adjusting the preload it would stay really high in the stroke. Now it looks like I'm able to use most of the stroke.

We couldn't find a manual but my Ohlins tech is going to give it a look and see what the shim stacks look like. From what he knows the newer sachs are using the same cartridge technology as Ohlins but we'll see.
 
After some testing I got the suspension working alot better. I know I was told not to mess with the preload but that seemed to have helped alot. The preload screw was all the way in so I backed it out and turned my compression full soft and rebound full slow.

Don't know why they would say don't mess with preload if it is externally adjustable!
 
I agree. The preload is externally adjustable and GoFasters told me to start there. It did soften the forks up quite a bit. I'm still making adjustments but revalving is probably necessary.
 
I've been in touch with suspension specialist, Dr. Shox & he has a setting for the Sachs forks, I'm going to get mine done as I'm getting tired of the current harshness of my forks which have been adjusted many times by the dealer. I'll let you know when I get them back how they're performing.
 
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