200 riders, how big/heavy are you?
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Legal one's anyways.
firffighter
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I completely agree. That is why I think the Gasgas 200 is a better platform IMO. Even though the KTM200 is lighter, there are some inherent issues with that. Number 1 being they deflect.
Example, you are riding 2nd-3rd gear and hit a rock garden. On the KTM200, I would deflect off the rocks and it would be hard to keep a line (stabilizer and suspension tuned). Even the KDX would hold a line better and my KTM and Gasgas 250's and 300's even better.
This is where the Gasgas might have it nailed with a mellow motor and in a 250 package.
I guess it comes down to this. If you are not racing, then for the most part, I would venture that most of us would be very close in speed whether we were on a 125,200,250,300, or? That is my experience at least. I am not any faster on my Gasgas 300 than I was on my KDX's, KTM200's or even WR250f. And yes, I do an occassional enduro and harescramble.
If that is the case, then it comes down to which bike is most fun to ride. And, it has been said that it is more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow.
GMP
Active member
We have some good events that used to be even better, and a few MX tracks, but other than that its what you make of it. You just have to be smart about it and you'll be OK. Some good intel helps too. This state totally sucks for most recreation except the typical canned sports programs. Totally overrun by liberals, greenies, and a DEP run a muck. Despite this, NJ still produces some fast guys, and on a Sunday morning there are a lot of bikes in the back of pickups. The woods up north by me are very tough, rocky, and not a big public traffic area. I ride right from my house.
GasGas
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Got to like riding from your door step. I have a short test loop across the street from my house that I have to go through my neighbors to access, so it's my own little private course. Or I can ride the tarmac for 2minutes and ride for hours. At least long enough to empty the tank anyways. We can cross most highways if we have an off road plate , insurance and a drivers license. But I just run the road plate as it makes it easier to connect trails at times. Or one can opt to run no plate and ride were ever they want, but that's getting frowned upon here more and more. We figure it's time to play nice and keep some trails open for the kids.
MattR
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Unless you are itching for a brand new bike, I would recommend freshening up the GG125. For less than a grand, you could redo the suspension front and rear for your weight/riding style, put in a new top end, and maybe some RB Design mods like squish band or carb divider. For a small investment, this would allow you to see if a smaller bore bike fits your riding style. It would also show if the lack of torque would be an issue for your terrain. If so, then a 144 kit or 200 may be the next logical step. Or if you definitely hate it, then the 250 is your fallback.
In my opinion, you don't know what you are missing until you take the leap and just try it out. Since you have access to a 125, you are in a great position to try it out for a year.
EDIT:
Or you can pick up a used 200 like this one to test the waters. Resale could be similar since it is an older year and depreciated a lot already.
http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10380
GMP
Active member
I know for sure I do not want a small bore as my only bike. Too many hills here. It would be an addition that I would pass on to my older son when he is ready. The 250 is very versatile, and I can ride it anywhere, so the money goes there. I can just go over the 125 and try it out for awhile any time I want.
GasGas,
I would be more than happy to follow some reasonable rules on legal trails, especially for the kids benefit. That has not been an option here for as long as I can remember.
GasGas,
I would be more than happy to follow some reasonable rules on legal trails, especially for the kids benefit. That has not been an option here for as long as I can remember.
I was playing around with the idea of getting a 200, but it seems it would be a bad idea. In the summer, I ride a lot at altitude, 9,000-10,500 ft. It sounds like the bike just won't have enough in it to climb our mountains. Agree, disagree?
Thanks for any input. (I'm only 5'8" and 170 lbs).
Jim
Thanks for any input. (I'm only 5'8" and 170 lbs).
Jim
I'm 6'5" tall and 210lbs. If I had the skill to ride my 200 on the pipe all the time it would probably go anywhere. I have to admit that I added a 12oz flywheel weight and set it up mild for my 16 year old son to learn on (he's 6'6" and still growing fast). I really believe that a head mod to optimize the squish is really important and would really help my 200s midrange but since I want it mild for my son I ride my Husky WR250 that has gobs of midrange power and actually forgives my lack of skill but won't forgive a beginners whisky throttle
. I really would like to own a 125 but like you I'm concerned that it wouldn't cut it with a 210lb rider at 8,000 ft.
. I really would like to own a 125 but like you I'm concerned that it wouldn't cut it with a 210lb rider at 8,000 ft.My family owns land in Beulah. The east side of the 2nd Mace trail runs in and out of our property. I grew up in Pueblo and used to ride the Mesa on the east side. I would like to get together and ride. I will be in Pueblo in April to try to settle a dispute over an easement to our property and if resolved I will spend most of the summer on the property working and also doing some playing. PM your contact info and I'll do the same so that when the time comes we can get together and ride.
