2012 -- Bent Kickstand Bolt AGAIN

StuJohnson

StuJohnson

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Seriously.... Am I the only one who hates the kickstand design on my bike???

I so want to take a torch and just cut and rip the SON OF A B$%^ off

Sure a lot of you say just get rid of it. Maybe I will. It really does not work for me. But there are so many times it comes in handy too.

I keep looking at all the other bikes kickstand designs. Like the promoto one for KX450 that is integrated into the foot peg mounts (thanks Desertgasser for that one). And the KTM ones are nice too.

I know this had been discussed a lot on here. But any others have good ways to keep the damn Grade 8 bolt from bending?

I am so tempted to modify my foot pegs mounts like the KX450. But that require quite a bit of work to the frame and if not done properly then would be a huge mistake....
 
The black bolt is a grade 10 bolt. Lasted 2 rides.

The silver one is a grade 8 bolt. Lasted 2 times in garage... Obviously I used the wrong bolt.

What length is in your bike for this bolt ?

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I went through four bolts before finally just ditched the kickstand. And I HATE not having a kickstand - sometimes a tree or fence post isn't around. And I get tired of the question...hey did your kickstand fall off?

I tried keeping it lubricated, I tried various different bolts, and I tried putting nylon shims in and it still gummed up and bent. I have never had this much trouble with a kickstand ever. I'm not sure if the bolt, itself, is the problem or just the design...crap just seems to get into the bolt hole and seize the thing up.

I wish the frame covered both sides of the top of the kickstand so that the bolt just making contact with the frame and not with the kickstand directly.
 
My 12' is exactly the same. Tried long, short, and all the way to grade 10... It always bends. Next step is dremeling a void in the stand so the head of the bolt doesnt contact the stand at all. Insted it will bottom against the spacer/bushing thing that runs thru the stand. I dont take credit on that idea, I've read it on this forum somewhere. I can't say goodbye to mine either so its just bolted down tight till I get some time to try that.
 
Mine isn't a 2012 but I never let it slam up by it's self. I always hold my foot on it when it goes up. It retracts so hard I figure it might break something not letting it up easy over time.
 
Buysomerice said:
My 12' is exactly the same. Tried long, short, and all the way to grade 10... It always bends. Next step is dremeling a void in the stand so the head of the bolt doesnt contact the stand at all. Insted it will bottom against the spacer/bushing thing that runs thru the stand. I dont take credit on that idea, I've read it on this forum somewhere. I can't say goodbye to mine either so its just bolted down tight till I get some time to try that.
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I shimmed with a different spacer so the bolt head doesn't contact the stand and that has seemed to work the best out of anything I've tried.
 
I'm going to try the dremel trick tonight. I really miss my kickstand.

I honestly can't remember if I let it auto retract or not, it has been so long, but I'll assume I did if that seems to be a big source of the problem.
 
I've got around 35hrs on the 2013 and haven't noticed any issues, but basically I always use my hand and gently let the stand retract as opposed to letting it flick up. I don't use it very often either as I'm more inclined to just sit on the bike when we regroup. Only real time its handy is when I'm moving it around in the shed and can't push the bike and drag the center stand around together. I have all intentions of removing mine at some point.
 
Mine is always gently escorted with a boot or hand I've never been bit by it, actually like it. No matter what the bolt works out eventually and the next time it's used it bends the bolt. Now since it's bent it works its way out more. Locktite wont help. Retightning wont help if its bent even a hair.. One day it worked well... When i carried a wrench and shot a lazer level and poured concrete for it to sit on.
 
I suggest you convert it to the 2014 setup. All you need is the new special bolt, and drill the hole in the kickstand to 12 mm, and drill out the 8 mm thread in the frame and make it a 10 mm .
 
bergerhag said:
I suggest you convert it to the 2014 setup. All you need is the new special bolt, and drill the hole in the kickstand to 12 mm, and drill out the 8 mm thread in the frame and make it a 10 mm .
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If you do this use a lot of loctite on the bolt otherwise the stand loosens the bolt each time you use it.
 
Buysomerice said:
Mine is always gently escorted with a boot or hand I've never been bit by it, actually like it. No matter what the bolt works out eventually and the next time it's used it bends the bolt. Now since it's bent it works its way out more. Locktite wont help. Retightning wont help if its bent even a hair.. One day it worked well... When i carried a wrench and shot a lazer level and poured concrete for it to sit on.
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I'll post pictures later, but I used a longer steel bushing that moved the bolt head off the stand then used a washer to keep the stand from ever rubbing on the bolt head and loosening it. Problem solved so far.
 
Yes. Pic please
Thanks

I wish TrailTech or ProMoto made an aftermarket one.

This one is for a KTM

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Here she is, I just used a larger washer and slightly longer bushing I had laying around. A small piece of steel tubing would work as well. It keeps the stand from loosening the bolt which I think leads to the bolt getting bent.


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If the 2014's use a larger diameter bolt I'd be interested in that, It sure couldn't hurt.

I agree with you Stu, the PMB stand would be the ultimate solution, or maybe just welding a tab to the frame so the stand is double shear over single shear. Poor design in my opinion.
 
A mate I've mine has the trail tech stand on his KTM. Well it has FAILED as well after only one year. He has now gone to a motion pro fingers crossed for him.
How much different is the 12-13 to the older model? Could move the spring holder to reduce the tension on the spring in the lowered position?
 
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