2019 Gas Gas updates

[swazi_matt]

so with other brands (predictably) already releasing their 2019 models, is there anything that the 2019 can improve on - other than releasing the bikes with the mods the 18s have been called back for (starter and mapping as far as i know)

From all the reviews i have read there is very little to change based on rider feedback. Personnally i hope they do make enough changes to get the leftover 18s to drop their prices and to have the option of getting some of the 18s onto the second hand market so i can get one

 

[AZRickD]

Diecast motor which can lead to weight reduction.
Any other places for weight reduction? Swing arm?

Starter update?

Maybe some vibration reduction (already low), without going to a counter- balancer.

I have heard near zero complaints about the 2018.

 

[memphis2857]

BNG


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[AZRickD]

Gas Gas cannot afford to skip a year by offering only ?Bold New Graphics.?

None of the manufacturers can, lest they turn into another Suzuki.

 

[memphis2857]

There will be no major changes. They will fix the few minor issues and send it out the door. None of the manufacturers make any real changes every year. Most manufacturers will go 4 years before they release a new bike. Well except for Suzuki and Yamaha.


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[AZRickD]

That sounds authoritative. What?s your source for this?

 

[gasgasman]

"Bold New Graphics"

 

[AZRickD]

That would be a momentum-stealing blunder.

 

[thumperrider1]

Money would be better spent. Just slap new graphics and spend the money fielding some demo bikes in the US and do some demo days like Yamaha does with Raines. Get people to ride the bikes. They will sell themselves. The dealer network is growing quick.

 

[poelinca]

Didn't Rod do demo rides in the US to show case the 2018 model ? That's what I remember anyways, they even did a couple of demo rides around here too (in Romania you can even rent these at major enduro events, one bike got stolen tough).

My wish for '19 is for Lars Enoeckl on the podium for one of these red bull events on a GG!

 

[CDN Rick]

Diecast motor which can lead to weight reduction.
Any other places for weight reduction? Swing arm?

Starter update?

Maybe some vibration reduction (already low), without going to a counter- balancer.

I have heard near zero complaints about the 2018.

Why would you not like a counter-balancer?

 

[(F5)]

Added weight size complexity and cost hardly worth it when these things rev so slowly. Unless they had a vibration problem. I've certainly never noticed one.

 

[CDN Rick]

Added weight size complexity and cost hardly worth it when these things rev so slowly. Unless they had a vibration problem. I've certainly never noticed one.

I can't say I have any complaints with mine. But I rode an '18 Husky T250i the other day and that thing is WOW Smooth!! I still liked my '18 EGP250 better than the Husky. But I'd gladly pay for a counterbalancer if GG came out with one.

 

[nknudsen]

Was there any issues with the counter balanced GG bikes from the late 90's? My buddy has a low mile 1999 that is very smooth. I'd be for it again.

 

[gasgasman]

Funny how we demand counter balancers and e-start.

 

[AZRickD]

Why would you not like a counter-balancer?

Dang it !!

Right after I originally posted that, I went back to edit with ?without necessarily? going to a counter balancer. I guess it didn?t take.

I did the 2018 KTM demo this winter in Phoenix and found the balanced KTMs to be nice but nothing to get overly excited about. Just a tingle on the foot pegs and no vibes on the grips (or visa versa, I can?t remember).

Absent market research that says potential GG buyers [edit] *desperately* want a counter-balancer, I would prioritize development resources elsewhere, as noted.

 

[CDN Rick]

Dang it !!

Right after I originally posted that, I went back to edit with ?without necessarily? going to a counter balancer. I guess it didn?t take.

I did the 2018 KTM demo this winter in Phoenix and found the balanced KTMs to be nice but nothing to get overly excited about. Just a tingle on the foot pegs and no vibes on the grips (or visa versa, I can?t remember).

Absent market research that says potential GG buyers [edit] *desperately* want a counter-balancer, I would prioritize development resources elsewhere, as noted.

Interesting.. I respect your opinion. But I've talked to a few guys who aren't thrilled with the idea of buying a bike without a balancer when there are options with it. If Beta pulls the trigger next year and adds one GG will be forced to follow to keep up or risk looking like they aren't in touch with the market. Like it or not, we all know mass market dictates product development more than what may actually be needed.

 

[AZRickD]

How dare you, Sir.

How dare you.

 

[Gibnut]

I?m nearly 50 & don?t notice any vibes on my ?18 EC250 Six Days - too busy loving the suspension & motor!

2019 Wishlist

- re-wire the starter with thicker gauge as stock & put the starter button on the rhs
- delete the auto-retract stand.
- offer squish-corrected heads from the Factory, based on fuel octane. Mine has been a little trying to jet. 2.06mm & spooge-city on Motul 710 @ 2% in 98RON. On the good Aussie stuff now, Penrite MC-2T Full Synthetic & she?s running great.
- Fit a stock diameter handlebar - fitting off the shelf full wrap handguards with a bar plug (Barkbusters, etc) requires drilling out the id of the ?bar (EC only).

 

[fred99999au]

Common mods for the 2018 models vid which includes the sidestand mod:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td_DTUZIH_I