Capacity advice please

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Hi Guys
Well its been a couple of years since I had my ec200 and Ive got the bug to start play riding again, I plan to enter a few clubman enduro events as well as trail riding, including tight woods and flowing trails.
I have two gassers to view this coming weekend and both are 2009 models (my budget range) one is a 250 and the other the 300.

Can I ask how different each bike is to ride motorwise, as I wont get the chance to ride either before buying, so Id like to know how each performs so to have some idea of their performance/delivery. And which one to chose ?

Any advice would be great
Cant wait to get back in the saddle

Chris

 

[Zman]

Both bikes will have more power across the board than the 200. Both will have considerably more low end torque than the 200. The 250 will rev more like the 200. The 300 can be easy to ride because it has enough power to ride a gear or two higher than the 200. The 300s can respond almost like a 4 stroke bike but if you want to make them rip they will do that too. If you are a light rider the 300 can be a bit much at times in tight woods. You can easily tune the power band of both bikes to your riding style. I weigh 245 lbs, while the difference in engines it is noticeable, I would not say there is not a huge difference. They make similar peak power. My 15 year old rides a 250 because he loves to rev the engine to the moon every chance he gets. My 17 yr old rides a 300 because he likes the torque and wheelie any time power. Both boys are 6'1" 160lbs.

 

[32:1]

Thanks

Thanks Zman

I was advised by a guy at a local event who had owned both size bikes years back, to go for the 250 as its a bit more forgiving and less tiring than the 300

Are both bikes very flywheely ? I like that effect and the lack of stalling, if they need weights, what size weight is favourite ?

Chris

 

[swazi_matt]

There is a comparison between the beta 250 and 300 in the current cycle news online magazine posted somewhere here that may help you with your decision

I personally find the 300 easier to ride but the 250 is more fun

 

[hadfield4wd]

Thanks Zman



I was advised by a guy at a local event who had owned both size bikes years back, to go for the 250 as its a bit more forgiving and less tiring than the 300



Are both bikes very flywheely ? I like that effect and the lack of stalling, if they need weights, what size weight is favourite ?



Chris

Flywheely? Is that a new word? Haha.

I will disagree about 250 being more forgiving. A 300 is in my opinion. They lug better and you can ride sometimes in a higher gear. 250 you have to pay a little more attention to the right gear.

Both have about the same HP just the delivery is more abrupt on the 250.

I personally find the 300 easier to ride but the 250 is more fun

Swazi hit it on the head I believe!

 

[32:1]

Flywheely? Is that a new word? Haha.

I will disagree about 250 being more forgiving. A 300 is in my opinion. They lug better and you can ride sometimes in a higher gear. 250 you have to pay a little more attention to the right gear.

Both have about the same HP just the delivery is more abrupt on the 250.





Swazi hit it on the head I believe![/QUOTE

Yes I kinda made that up Flywheel effect is what I should of stated

I added a 12oz to the 200 and liked it, a lot
Does the 300 use the same rotor as the 250 or is it heavier ?

Its good to hear everyones opinions, funny how one guy likes X and another likes Y.

Could I also ask if the top ends are interchangeable or is crank included

 

[Anders]

Does the 300 use the same rotor as the 250 or is it heavier ?

Could I also ask if the top ends are interchangeable or is crank included

Both 200, 250 and 300 use the same rotor.

The 250 and 300 share the same crank.



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[32:1]

Thanks Anders

Do you know if they share the same rotor

 

[Jakobi]

What everyone else has said.

The 250 needs a bit more rider input, but not as much as a 200 would.
The 250 will rev a bit further than the 300, and as such may make a touch more peak HP. The 300 delivers the meat of the power earlier and more linear. The 250 starts off softer and delivers the power more abruptly. Definitely makes for more fun!

Flywheel/inertia depends on the model, but most have the 2K3 lighting stator which imo adds more than enough inertia to them.

Buy the bike you can get the best deal on is my opinion. From new, the 250 will generally retail significantly cheaper than a 300, and all it takes to make your 250 into a 300 is a new cylinder, piston, and head (and vice versa). If shopping for a used bike, again the 250 may be cheaper as they don't seem to have the same appeal, but overall I'd be looking at total hours, maintenance, and the general state of the chassis to make the decision.

 

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OK

Thanks for the advice, yes condition will sway my choice indeed
I will be looking at both this coming weekend and will be clearing a space in the garage ready to park it

Regards

Chris

 

[swazi_matt]

When asking advice exclude any advice coming from 2017 ktm riders, it seems that a lot of previous 300 riders are preferring the 17 250 over the 300 (generally better to just ignore anything a ktm rider says because if they knew what they were talking about then they would be riding a gg)

 

[32:1]

When asking advice exclude any advice coming from 2017 ktm riders, it seems that a lot of previous 300 riders are preferring the 17 250 over the 300 (generally better to just ignore anything a ktm rider says because if they knew what they were talking about then they would be riding a gg)

I have a buddy thats orange through and through, nothing else made is any good for him

 

[32:1]

Done it

Well Ive joined the GG club

Just bought a nice clean 09 250ec

I did view both and the 300 was just that bit to rough around the edges for me, and the guy wouldn't budge on price, but the 250 is real tidy and seems original, engine sounds OK and the seller through a box of bit in the deal

I'm planning to ride it next week, one little issue Ive found is it idles ok sometimes and others it drops off and stalls, if I pick the idle up it then runs on to a real fast idle.

So, any 250 setup tips / tricks

Regards

Chris

 

[3beejay3]

Before I bought my XC250, I spent a bit of time pondering, as well as riding both the 250's and 300's.
They both have their pluses and minuses.

The reasons I went with a 250 is because a 300 can sometimes have you looking at the sky when you didn't plan for it, which is sometimes OK when you're fresh, but definitely not OK when you're tired. A 250 also has enough lugging ability for many situations & can still get up a lot of hills, without too much drama. Where I tend to ride, a 250 is quite enough in most situations. I find that 250's vibrate less than 300's. A 250 is less likely to tire you out and I can ride them a bit quicker in the woods.
A 250 seemed like the best compromise for me & I still believe that 5 years later.