Christini Gasgas

[SpeedyManiac]

No way is this for an ISDE bike. Technically, the ISDE is really easy. A C rider could ride the course. The ISDE is tough because 6 days is a long time on a bike. Fatigue plays a role, and just wear and tear on the bike and rider. I couldn't feel my hands by the end of the six days, even using flexx bars.

Now, for stuff like Erzberg and the Romaniacs, AWD is perfect.

 

[GMP]

They are getting close to the point of being able to do a KTM 300 kit for $4K. I give these guys a lot of credit for sticking with the concept. IMO though, I would take a long hard look at hydraulic(like the Ohlins/Yamaha prototype) as an alternate development. It just seems like you could make it much more modular and a sealed system would be potentially more reliable. I'm sure there are downsides though. It would be interesting to see if the Ohlins system has progressed.

 

[mountain thumper]

heres the response to my questions in my first post

i Craig, thanks for checking us out on the web. The kit price for the GAS
GAS will fall right around the $4000 mark as I can actually offer you a KTM
kit at the same $3995 price as the Honda. Really unless we do a complete
new bike, it still requires the frame core exchange. Essentially, if you
have a bike to convert, you would send us the frame and forks. We would
issue you a completed AWD frame and stamp your original vin into the new
AWAD headtube. Your frame then goes into our production queue for later
conversion. The kit is built upon this frame and a pre-assembled kit is
sent to you for assemble of the stock motorcycle parts. Or we offer
complete new bike build services for a Honda or KTM model of your choosing.
GasGas is not quite ready for that yet.

As per reliability, all of the gears drive shafts etc are lifetime parts.
Some of the bearings and chains will need to be checked at intervals of
around 50-60 hours. Generally it may require some cleaning and regresaing of
internal parts but we use o-rings and seals to protect the internals as best
as possible. We have guys with 2500 mile on their in less than a year with
no problems. The key is that the parts are under no load (just spinning)
except upon the system engaging until traction is regained at the rear. It
works like a traction control system and is active or doing work at he front
upon rear wheel spin. The sprag or one way clutch bearings in the hub will
most likely last the life of the bike as they are over engineered and
automotive grade. On a routine basis it is important to keep the linear
spline bearings greased and chain lubed and adjusted.

 

[jostby]

I would hate to have carb issues while on the trail with this set-up!

 

[TooFastTim]

They also told me the new GG 250F prototype they saw is VERY nice!

No pictures?

 

[GMP]

No, this was just a comment by the Christini guys.

 

[Skidad]

Originally Posted by GMP
They also told me the new GG 250F prototype they saw is VERY nice!

Talking to Steve at Go Fasters he said the Gas Gas 250 thumper is going to be using the motor from a different company at least initially. Apparantly the GG designed motor is not ready yet. He would not give me any more info on who the supplier would be.

Any guesses?

 

[GMP]

Jeff,

Yeah I remember Steve saying that too, I honestly don't know what the Christini guys meant, GG motor or not. I wouldn't mind the Yamaha motor from what I've seen of a friend and his son's bikes. Unless you do something stupid it seems bulletproof in a woods bike. There is enough power, and it doesn't get you tired. You use most of it instead of managing extra power you don't need (like a 200 2-stroke as well). Of course this is all assuming technical woods riding. I think a 250 - 300F is in my future eventually, as I get older, slower, and more busted up.

 

[gasgasman]

He would not give me any more info on who the supplier would be.

Any guesses?

Funny this came up.
A couple weeks ago, one of my co-workers asked me why Gas Gas was using Kawasaki motors.
I said that's the first I've heard of that. He said he read it somewhere.

 

[Berkyboy]

The following does not confirm anyting but are all true statements.

1) GasGas has tried a Yamaha YZF250 motor in one of their frames, along with some other Japanese brand's four-stroke engines as well, to see how their EC frame would handle small bore four-stoke power

2) In the past GasGas has considered using small bore Japanese four-stokes engines but price and availability in numbers is perceived to be a problem.

3) GasGas is close to producing their own small bore 250-350cc four-stroke enduro engine but at this point their priority is on the four-stroke trials engine to make its debut first.

None of these statments confirm nor deny that GasGas will absolutely produce a small bore four-stroke enduro or trials bike with a Japanese engine in the near future, but rest assured there will be a small bore GasGas four-stroke soon.

How soon I do not know.

 

[mootak]

I have been beating up Christini AWD bikes going on three years now. Started one day in Vegas at the Endurocross - Christini rented the course for an hour or so and I was lucky enough to get an invite. Maint. is easy, parts are over-engineered, I have had the bikes through the ringer many times, including 8 or 9 hour straight shop demo rides none stop, one rider to the next. My 270X Honda has been to Last Man Standing twice, an occasional Endurocross, etc. and my new XCW250 model has been tortured many times already.
Thanks Steve, and all the guys at Christini AWD Motorcycles for allowing me to finish better every race I have been in. The bikes are amazing - can't wait to try a Gasser.
When the race is going to be a root, rock, mudfest I choose the Christini every time.

Later,
Jeff Tasky

 

[LLpeteJ]

When i talked briefly with Steve Christini at the mc show he said there was a chance that Geoff Aaron will be on a GG300 2wd for hard enduro and endurox this year instead of a Ktm for 2009. I now see a post on orangebike talk saying it is confirmed that he will be riding a gg does anyone else got any info?

 

[SpeedyManiac]

Doesn't surprise me. Geoff has had issues with the KTM (they overheat way too easy) and he's back on GasGas trials bikes. When I talked to them at the Romaniacs, they said they were still developing the Gasser AWD but that there was a strong possibility Geoff would be on a GasGas for extreme races once they had a working bike and got everything sorted out with the factory.

 

[101racing]

350 four stroke

Could they put the 350 from the trials bike in an ec model i think that would be cool. I would buy one. We use to have the ktm 350 (big bore 250) it was a blast light weight and still be able to thump down the road.