EC 300 2018 starter problem

Does yours actually start on e-start at all? Mine won't spin cold and just spins over rapidly when hot but no fire.

Yeah starts ok when warm but not from cold unless a hot day. Getting worse though as battery is nearly rooted.
 
I did get my e-start working. I needed new flywheel (with longer gap) and cdi remap. I had problem, when it cranked ok, but spark was weak or non existant. Now it fires up cold or hot, in gear or not doesnt matter. At the moment i have 2019 modelyear flywheel. For some reason, most of 2018 beginning bikes have this "upgrade" already done, but my bike wasnt on the badones list, maybe someone did put wrong parts at the factory, dunno.
 
I did get my e-start working. I needed new flywheel (with longer gap) and cdi remap. I had problem, when it cranked ok, but spark was weak or non existant. Now it fires up cold or hot, in gear or not doesnt matter. At the moment i have 2019 modelyear flywheel. For some reason, most of 2018 beginning bikes have this "upgrade" already done, but my bike wasnt on the badones list, maybe someone did put wrong parts at the factory, dunno.

Did you get pics of the differences?
 
So I know I said I was going have a go at fixing my starter, but my new job prevents me from spending the time mucking around with it. Bike goes to the nearest dealer this week, they're confident they can get it working. I'll update this thread with the outcome
 
I dont use camera too often...Gap on flywheel was approx 31mm, on the new one, by eye, 2x longer. I'm talking about gap, what sensor reads.
 
Interesting, here is a picture of my flywheel. The "cutout" measures 31mm. I asked a GasGas tech about it and he said that it is "stock, and should be fine".

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I assumed that it was already modified. You can see where it looks like grinding took place to elongate the "cutout" (which I assume is the sensor window). But Duster says his gap is twice that long (?).

Here is a picture from another forum. It shows a "before" and "after" picture, but the post is unclear as to which is the modified flywheel. Does anyone know the correct cutout/sensor window length?

Jeff

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Modified is with the longer gap, 2019 modelyear has already flywheel with this long gap from factory. If nothing helps, i can measure changed flywheel's gap, but it really was very long compared to my original. This cap lenght changes the time, that ignition coil is charged so u get strong spark with lower rpm. It starts better with kickstarter and"hillstart" also! NB u need to overflash your cdi, if u get other flywheel or u get very bad ignition timing!

My dealer talked same, that it should be fine and tried to fix my starter, gave me batteries, changed wires. Nothing helped, even new starter from bike which started with e-start didn't help my bike to start with e-start.
 
Thanks Duster, if you (or anyone else w/a 2019) could measure the gap, that would be great - and I will get out my grinder!

Jeff
 
Hi guys, just found where my problem was, seized shaft on the mechanism of the starter, if you go to the exploded manual, on the page where it shows the parts for the starter, the parts number 17 and 16 had given up.

The number 17 turns whit the stater motor but the 16 does not, i need to replace those but its a pain to take them out, tried last night with no success, i managed to take out the first bearing but this one is putting a fight.

cheers

Eralha,did you get it out? I was going to replace the bearing as it is a bit 'notchy' but spins ok.I can not get it out,soaked in penetrating oil,loads of heat but won't move.I am close to damaging the case so gave up.Any suggestions?
 
So I know I said I was going have a go at fixing my starter, but my new job prevents me from spending the time mucking around with it. Bike goes to the nearest dealer this week, they're confident they can get it working. I'll update this thread with the outcome

Any update on this. Curious what the dealer did?
 
Sure, I think I mentioned the results in another thread. Dealer performed a CDI flash, updated flywheel and greased the starter mechanisms. Once I added a high cca lithium battery it works 95% of the time when warm, still have never got it going cold with the starter.
I have recently seen the video where they suggest welding the pinion shaft and bendix. So I might try that over summer and see if it helps.
 
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