Ergos question...

[SpeedyManiac]

FYI I'm a mechanical engineer. The new BRP stuff looks good, looks like they finally got the dimensions pretty close. The old setup I have is way too high and too far back. I went out riding today with the new SUB mount and am impressed. I rode on a natural terrain motocross track (no jumps) and the bars were perfect for railing corners.

 

[rpduc]

Personally...I wouldn't recommend a garage built/designed setup.
I would purchase from a company like BRP because you know you are getting a highly engineered product that has been rigorously tested for safety and fit issues.

Personally, I do not believe there is a lot of "HIGH" engineering involved in CNCing a chunk of alu. to fit a couple holes. The stuff is blingy but IMO not any more functional or "safe" than a common sense, utilitarian set-up like Speedy designed. You'd have to rip the triple off to make their "garage built" set-ups fail.

Inspired by EricK and Speedy I fabbed a set of offset risers from a chunk of 5/8" aluminum "billet" on my band saw and drill press and I have absolutely NO worries about any kind of failure.

Soon as I get 'em mounted up I'll snap a few pics.

 

[GMP]

Steve,

That looks good, a lot like the ProTect submount.

I designed a new clamp on tower, to go with a +10mm damper arm. This allows use of a 15mm dia. riser and reduced forces on the tower pin. With an an 8mm mounting tab, it should be very stout. This, along with a top mount plate to mount the damper over the Bike Bonz handguard mounts is being made as I type this.

I like the forward position but hate the height of a submount, so this should do it.

 

[SpeedyManiac]

Glenn, post some pictures when you get the new tower! I have a tower designed, but haven't got around to getting it made.

I like my bars high, but am going to a lower setup for cornering in special tests. This SUB mount seems like a reasonable compromise. Eventually when I get the time I'm going to make a whole new top triple clamp, SUB mount and bolt on tower that will keep things at the same height as stock, but maybe a little farther forward.

 

[GMP]

I ended up using the BRP ring clamp as part of the design, primarily due to machining costs. I removed the original tower riser and cleaned it up. Now I have to make a fixture (plate) to hold the ring clamp and the riser tab for welding to keep it true.

Top mount (tall) towers are much more prone to flex than short sub mount towers, thats why I went through all this trouble.

What you have to watch for in your short, cut down BRP tower is that the bearing surface area (tube/pin) is small and develops wear and play relatively fast.

 

[OhioPT]

I'm 6'1" and did both of these mods and it made all the differance. You'll love it.

Is this the BRP clamp you guys are referring to? Is appears that the offset is 3mm. Is this enough to make a substantial difference?
http://www.brpmoto.com/product_info...d=334&osCsid=141155a3f70b6eb56d694e3deb149797

Also, do you guys have any photos or details of how to cut and remount (weld?) the footpeg spacers?

I'm looking to buy an EC250, but I'm very concerned about the ergos, since I'm 6'3" with a 34" inseem, and used to the roomy ergos (tall/forward bars and tall seat) on my current KTM 450exc.

 

[Eric K]

3mm is hardly enough to be noticeable.

To really open things up for proper stand up attack riding with my long arms, I moved my bars forward 1.5 inches (about 38 mm). It feels great to me. My 17 year old son says it feels weird.

 

[roostafish]

On the footpegs. I don't have pictures, but I think I can explain it. Take off the peg and look at where the pin goes through. There is a spacer molded into the design on the bottom of the pivot. If you cut it off, then turn it over on the top side of the peg, stick the pin through it and line it up real nice, hold it in a vice and weld around it to the peg , this will drop your peg height 13mm and move it back ever so slightly. It worked well for me on my XC 250. If you don't like that idea, Fastway pegs allow the same thing, only you get to choose without welding.

 

[rpduc]

I finally got around to doing my offset spacers. They worked out great. A tad higher and a bit further forward make standing much more natural. Plus they allowed the use of the new Cycra CRM (center reach mount) handguards. I don't know what those bar clamps are, they were on the bike when I got it.