Flat tires, how unlucky are you ?

[gasgasxc]

I was a very weak 11th in romaniacs this year, how do your race results compare this year?

LOL thank you for that laugh.
How did we ever live without mousses.
I think thats how you put it mousses?

The message is.
"They are not must haves"
Most riders cannot change tires properly.

This was a broad conversation covering 95% of the riders out there.
Not an extreme enduro professional who has a shitload on the line for one day.

Fairly obvious.I mean if we are talking tires and setups we arent talking NASCAR are we.
Congrats on 11th?
Maybe a little sensitive for an offroad pro?
And I am deff not impressed.Although many in here would be.
But we wont get into the whys of all that.

What happened?11 th place guys arent allowed in the big boys forums.
Shittttt

 

[Leo]

<<for curiosity reasons only>>

Here we have here this 8mm inner tube.
Yes, I know, too stiff and heavy.

Never used but seems to be 100% proof against snake bits, abrasion and related. Plus integrated rim lock. Anyway, you can ride with 0 psi.

Half price than bib mousse

Factory website
http://www.lucioli.com.br/


small test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55RLG4Sf2vI

 

[memphis2857]

Here we have here this 8mm inner tube.
Yes, I know, too stiff and heavy.

Never used but seems to be 100% proof against snake bits, abrasion and related. Plus integrated rim lock. Anyway, you can ride with 0 psi.

Half price than bib mousse

Factory website
http://www.lucioli.com.br/


small test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55RLG4Sf2vI

And at $50 USD not much more than a HD tube. I am curious though you said it could be run at 0 psi? I would think it would need at least a few psi or a double bead lock. Correct


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[GasGasDreamer]

TUBLISS seems immune to flats. and the tires can be plugged.

 

[Leo]

And at $50 USD not much more than a HD tube. I am curious though you said it could be run at 0 psi? I would think it would need at least a few psi or a double bead lock. Correct

it's so stiff that you can ride it flat for very long distances.

 

[memphis2857]

TUBLISS seems immune to flats. and the tires can be plugged.

I wouldn't say immune to flats. My rear tire has more plugs in it than most ATV tires. Lol. I run GoldenTyres and they tend to have a soft carcass. So I get a lot more puncture flats than I would if I still used tubes. That being said though a flat tire is really no big deal because you can just keep right on riding and it doesn't hurt anything.


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[swazi_matt]

<<for curiosity reasons only>>

Here we have here this 8mm inner tube.
Yes, I know, too stiff and heavy.

Never used but seems to be 100% proof against snake bits, abrasion and related. Plus integrated rim lock. Anyway, you can ride with 0 psi.

Half price than bib mousse

Factory website
http://www.lucioli.com.br/


small test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55RLG4Sf2vI

Mefo mousse make a similar product. A mousse with an inflatable tube in it - I like this option although the unsparing weight may be an issue (according to the experts)

Mousses for extreme races is not really on topic. Most guys will drill a brand new mousse to get it to be the equivalent of about 0.4bar but only last the day (alternatively use an old mousse and risk it dissintegrating ). I hate mousses they are expensive and you have no control over their stiffness - you have to ride with them too hard then get a window of just right then they start getting too soft

 

[gasgasxc]

Exactly right.
If you are racing an extreme enduro at the professional level, If you fund yourself racing the Dakar rally -really!!, If you are racing Six Days by all means run mousses.
Keep in mind "those people" have people that do that stuff for them.Mousses arent fun.Except Six Days gotta do most of that stuff yourself.Keep in mind many Six Days racers run tubes.They can also change a tire out in 5 minutes.Pffft.

So for you wanna be extreme racer types, non tire changing types or the you know what I just dont wanna have to deal with flats again in my life types.Go mousse.

Tubeless Is an option also.Pros and Cons there.

So in the spirit of the thread.No flats=Mousses.I give you that.

For mere mortal average Joe and above Average Joe weekend warrior trail rider, hill climber, racer types runnin those B, C and D classes.Tubes are the Shitt.

I like adjusting my air pressure for traction in differing terrains and conditions.I like the ride comfort I get with tubes.Maybe I want to flip a new tire around after a few rides to get more life out of it.Maybe I wanna swap tires out for different riding conditions and dont want to own 3 sets of wheels.

I dont like the weight and added inertia I get with solid rubber tires.
Then again 80% of the time Im spoolin up a 125.So no thanks.

Learn to change tires and you are golden with options.
Weak= weak in maintenance skills.
And Ive seen more grown men crumble changing tires and dealing with flats then anything else dirtbike related.

 

[GasGas]

Well, apparently I forgot to knock on wood before I posted in this dam thread! Had my first ever trail flat today. I neglected to check my tire pressure before my ride today, so it could have been a bit on the low side. Ended up with a pinch flat from the tube being crushed against my plastic motion pro rim lock. I don't think it would happen on the rear, as that would be a lot of tire to crush. You can see the outline of the teeth in the rubber and two holes lining up with the teeth. I will be switching back to the standard MP rim lock that has the rubber on it.

 

[webmaster]

One thing that I have found is certain brands of flat proof can reduce pinch flats dramatically. They lubricate the inside of the tube. I used to use honda flat proof religiously and didn't have alot of problems... And that was with standard thickness michelin airstop tubes...

Note that this was in NW woods with roots and rocks - hammering through them at times.... No thorns, etc. so YMMV...

jeff

 

[memphis2857]

One thing that I have found is certain brands of flat proof can reduce pinch flats dramatically. They lubricate the inside of the tube. I used to use honda flat proof religiously and didn't have alot of problems... And that was with standard thickness michelin airstop tubes...

Note that this was in NW woods with roots and rocks - hammering through them at times.... No thorns, etc. so YMMV...

jeff

I have had great luck with the Quad Boss brand. Not so much with Slime. Seems all slime does for you is make it easier to find the puncture by leaking nasty green stuff everywhere. I ran slime with my Tubliss at first and it just flat doesn't work. Wouldn't even seal up the smallest punctures. Quad Boss on the other hands has cut the number of plugs in my tires nearly in half. It really is great stuff.


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