GasGas EC Ranger...

[Loveen]

I've been looking at the Ranger for my next bike. Does anyone know what the difference in engine characteristic would be between the 200 and the 300? I don't see any reviewers taking about that. My thought is that since both are supposed to be turned for more bottom end there might not be that much difference other than the 300 just having more torque. Does that seem right?

They haven't released any 200 version of the Ranger, I think they'll be released next year though. When I talked to the GasGas representative earlier this year, he thought that the 200 would be too weak in the bottom and you had to really rev it to make it go. Never tried the Beta 200, but I'd say the 200 version of the Ranger would be a bit different than the Beta in terms of engine characteristics.

Like Moto7man, you probably wont be able to ride the 200 the same as the 300.

 

[Stewee64]

I own a 2020 EC Ranger and I can't say anything bad about other than that the plastic is abit crap (as always with GasGas). It's really good at the bottom and coming from a 4 stroke it's not as much change as I initially thought.

Got my hands on it mid june, so it was delayed by a month basically.

Hi Loveen, I've just bought an EC Ranger too and I'm having a really bad time with it. Out of the box it seems really hesitant to go over 55 mph, and if you level off the throttle at any speed it seems to pulse a little (fast-slower-faster e.t.c...). I need to get it back to my dealer but he's a few hours away, so before I do I wanted to check with you that the Ranger should just run OK slow to fast.

 

[Davehuge]

Hi Loveen, I've just bought an EC Ranger too and I'm having a really bad time with it.

Your jetting needs setting up. As the engine is a high performance 2 stroke, it's impossible for the factory to send them out to suit all altitudes/climates. It seems all the EC and Rangers leave the factory with very rich jetting, hence the problem you're having.

I wish GasGas (and other manufacturers) sent their bikes out with a jetting kit, a selection of pilots, mains and needles, that would be nice.

Ask your dealer if he's willing to sell you jets/needles at trade price or provide you with them on a trial basis and return what you don't need.

It's well worth spending a little time and effort getting the jetting dialed in, it will transform your bike.

I see from the spec the Ranger uses a 36mm Keihin as opposed the 38mm on the EC so I assume the jetting will be slightly different.

All the best, Dave.

 

[Loveen]

Hi Loveen, I've just bought an EC Ranger too and I'm having a really bad time with it. Out of the box it seems really hesitant to go over 55 mph, and if you level off the throttle at any speed it seems to pulse a little (fast-slower-faster e.t.c...). I need to get it back to my dealer but he's a few hours away, so before I do I wanted to check with you that the Ranger should just run OK slow to fast.

Yep, excatly as you mentioned. I mostly notice it at lower RPMs, it doesn't really want to run clean - but when you give it some throttle it runs great. I have no problem reaching 65-70 mph. I will also be looking for a new jet. Had a friend with a EC250 with same issues, so it's definetly a jetting issue.

 

[Loveen]

Quick update on jetting:

I swapped out the N1EF (standard) to the N1EG and it runs very smooth now throughout the register. Have only tried a couple rides around the yard but I will go to the enduro track tomorrow and try it out but it already feels better.

 

[Stewee64]

Quick update on jetting:

I swapped out the N1EF (standard) to the N1EG and it runs very smooth now throughout the register. Have only tried a couple rides around the yard but I will go to the enduro track tomorrow and try it out but it already feels better.

Interesting. I had 2 days out in the Welsh hills this week and I still feel it lacks any sort of grunt over 40mph, and still feels choppy and rough. For reference I am mostly riding between sea level and 700 metres, and temp between 15-25 degrees C.

 

[SS109]

Interesting. I had 2 days out in the Welsh hills this week and I still feel it lacks any sort of grunt over 40mph, and still feels choppy and rough. For reference I am mostly riding between sea level and 700 metres, and temp between 15-25 degrees C.

Have you messed with the jetting yet?

 

[Stewee64]

Have you messed with the jetting yet?

Not yet. I checked with the UK importer who runs a demo bike which I tried out before buying mine. His bike ran great and he, like me, is using the stock jetting.
I have some jets on order.

 

[Moto7man]

Dirt Bike Magazine Tests 2020 Ranger-They Love it!

I just read the test of the 2020 Ranger in the October 2019 Issue of Dirt Bike Magazine. They loved everything about the bike.They did say the jetting was rich. They said the Ranger can go toe to toe with any bike made on tight slow technical trails.

 

[Davehuge]

I've read many times about the GasGas electric start being weak, only just man enough to start the engine or sometimes not starting it at all.

I like the look of the Ranger and would consider one but, seeing as there's no kick start, I hope they've improved the electric start!

 

[Moto7man]

I've read many times about the GasGas electric start being weak, only just man enough to start the engine or sometimes not starting it at all.

I like the look of the Ranger and would consider one but, seeing as there's no kick start, I hope they've improved the electric start!

I don?t think we will see any rangers or any 2020 enduro models in the US.

 

[(F5)]

None of my race bikes had either a kick or electric start. . .
We used to sneer at people carrying the extra weight.

Although I never tended to stall them in a creek or 1/2 way up a hill when the front stops on a rock.

. . . and I could paddle or run and jump start, being tarmac.

Ranger does look good.
Wet mod the e.starter side and it looks like a blanking plug over the kick shaft; find 2nd hand parts and start it cold with kicker.

 

[Loveen]

I've read many times about the GasGas electric start being weak, only just man enough to start the engine or sometimes not starting it at all.

I like the look of the Ranger and would consider one but, seeing as there's no kick start, I hope they've improved the electric start!

Haven't really had any issues with the starter - but make sure battery is fully charged (original battery is lead) and it should last throughout the day. Might be even better if you get a lithium battery.

I've ran it with studded tyres when it's around -5 C and with fully charged battery it starts up after 10-20 sec.

Also, I've talked to one of the importers here in Europe and he mentioned you could fit the same kickstarter which is mounted on the other EC-models, since the engine is pretty much identical.