gasgas v beta

[Simmo737]

My euro spec 300 2013 r weighs 251 lbs full of fuel, bone stock apart from acd radiator braces. Measured on soehnle scales.

 

[john01]

John I weighed my wife's 11 EC250 and my Beta on the same scale and came up with 29lb difference. No fuel in any of the bikes and rad guards on the Gasgas.
What surprised me most is that the Beta was only about 10lbs more than my husky wr165.

Wow that is a big difference. Thanks for the feedback.

 

[john01]

I haven't ridden Armin's WB165, but I find no reason to dispute what else he said

Not the 165 vs 300 comparo Steve. The 300 GG vs the 300 Beta . I have a 165 and had a 300 GG so I know how those two stack up .

 

[Beta Steve]

Having ridden, and picked up, both the '13 Beta and '11 & '12 GG, I can guarantee there is more than a 8 pound weight difference.
Armin, I'm interested in how much sag and what line the forks are at height wise to get the steering you have described?

 

[3beejay3]

That is rediculous, I don't care what anyone says about the bike "not feeling heavy" that is a ton of weight that will surely be felt in some way shape or form. My buddies 08 450 berg felt very light and nimble too but not after a 5 or 6 hour ride with that extra 50 pounds.

I've never noticed the weight of my '12 XC 250, which full of fuel and ready to ride is probably on the north side of 260#, even after several hours of riding. It really does ride light. Not as light as a husky WR125 (which is a flyweight & I've rode a bunch of em.), but still nice and 2 stroky light. It also benefits from its ability to hold its line which requires less energy from the rider.

Last wknd, I traded with a buddy who rides a new KTM XC-F350, which is supposed to be lighter than my bike. It's a very good bike, but still 'rode' 20lbs heavier than mine.