Kick start slip!

[motopsycho87]

Hi, just referring to a previous post on clutch slip. I put
10w40 in my bike, and managed to get the bike so it doesn't engage at all . On the post, 3 parts are mentioned to be replaced, what are they? Spring, starter gear and?

Thanks!

 

[Jim Cook]

Hi, just referring to a previous post on clutch slip. I put
10w40 in my bike, and managed to get the bike so it doesn't engage at all . On the post, 3 parts are mentioned to be replaced, what are they? Spring, starter gear and?

Thanks!

You will also need the part that splines to the shaft and engages the starter gear.

KICKSTART RATCHET PINION ME120126004 (In 2004, GG started using the updated EC125 part number)

Previous years called for a ME250126004 (2000) and ME25612004 (1996).

As far as I know, they are all interchangeable. I recently put one of the ME25612004 parts into a 2006 EC250, and another in a 2001 EC300.

 

[Jim Cook]

Here is a jpg of the parts breakdown. The Kickstart Ratchet Piinion is part #2 in the diagram.

 

[gasser]

Stretching the engagement spring (#1 in the parts diagram) fixed the starter on my 07 gasser. Stretching it adds preload to the spring and it will engage the gears quicker and more securely. There may have been a batch of weak springs supplied to the factory because others have had the same problem. I compared the 2007 spring to the one in my 01gasser and the 07 spring was definately weaker.

 

[Jakobi]

My 2013 needs to have the spring stretched. Doesn't engage as well as my 2010 (and on that I replaced the rachet and pinion).

Generally speaking the spring is responsible for the tension and engagement of the gears. If it loses tension then the gear and pinion don't engage and slip. The slipping results in wear on the teeth and the problem progressively gets worse until they need to be replaced. Get onto the spring at the first sign and its happy sailing.

 

[Jim Cook]

One more thing:
If you haven't yet taken apart the kickstart assembly, when you do, pay attention to which spline the kiskstart ratchet pinion is located on. This determines the return spring tension, and it only works well in that one position.

 

[krazed0451]

I have occasional slip in a second hand 06 I just picked up, mainly when I boot the kicker for a quick restart rather than loading it up first. Clearly the previous owner was either more delicate or less mechanically inclined than I am.

Thanks for the info guys, I daresay I'll be making a few more posts in the forum in the coming weeks as I get my bike to a state I'm happy with