Kickstand broken off, help please

[BryanMcc]

Went down on the left. Not very hard actually, and when I picked the bike up the kickstand was loose. It broke by the hole where the chain roller bolts to the frame along with the kickstand. Has anyone ever hard this happen to them and if so how did you fix it.

 

[stabak]

it's a common problem.
try to weld it back again
for a permanent solution try to alter the pivoting spot or reinforce the oem one
couple of threads here with alternatives

 

[Elvis74]

just weld it, I weld already my foot pegs on my old gasser adn it worked very well. The frame is made otu of something like 25CrMo4 (1.7218 or AISI4130) no mirical to weld.

 

[BryanMcc]

Thanks guys. I was hoping I wouldn't have to weld it. I'll look for the threads for the relocation. On a different note, the chain roller broke off also, is that a big deal to not have?

 

[hannesd]

Thanks guys. I was hoping I wouldn't have to weld it. I'll look for the threads for the relocation. On a different note, the chain roller broke off also, is that a big deal to not have?

well, it could and most probably will rub your frame...and that can't be good now can it

 

[husley]

Me too

Just snapped off my mount where the roller bolt goes through but.......

the part of the frame that snapped off is gone. Probably out on the trail somewhere.

Any thoughts on how to replace the missing part of the frame?

I am guessing I can find another GasGas, draw a template of the bracket and have someone fabricate it?

Thanks

J

 

[Jakobi]

http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14099&highlight=stand

Heres what I found.. I bought the replacement part, but never bothered to install it. Just added a typical TMDesignworks lower chain guide and let it do its thing. Now I just have to find a tree to lean the bike against when I stop.

 

[husley]

http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=14099&highlight=stand

Heres what I found.. I bought the replacement part, but never bothered to install it. Just added a typical TMDesignworks lower chain guide and let it do its thing. Now I just have to find a tree to lean the bike against when I stop.

Very helpful, thank you.

So this leads me to ask: the roller behind the kickstand is not necessary?

 

[Jakobi]

I wouldn't ride without it. I think it would run the risk of the chain slapping down against the shifter and/or shaft. I rewelded the tab similar to n_green, but instead of installing the kickstand and bracket back between the tab and the frame, I just used a ball bearing roller. I'll take a pic this arv for you.

 

[husley]

I wouldn't ride without it. I think it would run the risk of the chain slapping down against the shifter and/or shaft. I rewelded the tab similar to n_green, but instead of installing the kickstand and bracket back between the tab and the frame, I just used a ball bearing roller. I'll take a pic this arv for you.

thank you

j

 

[husley]

Hmmm

I have managed to confuse myself:

I have reviewed the Microfiche and I can see that I can purchase the kickstand mounting bracket, but I do not need one as mine if fine.

I need to replace/duplicate the tab that comes off of the frame that the roller mounting bolt goes through.

Did I read that I can purchase the tab to have it welded on, or do I just need to go and reproduce one?

thanks

J

 

[john r b]

I think your gonna be Fabbing one.

 

[husley]

ok

I think your gonna be Fabbing one.

Makes sense. Thanks

 

[Jakobi]

Sometimes the tab and roller stay with the bracket when it breaks. Othertimes the whole lot goes somewhere in the bush. Either way, fabbing up a new (stronger) tab and then mounting onto that should reduce the likelihood of it breaking again.

 

[husley]

Sometimes the tab and roller stay with the bracket when it breaks. Othertimes the whole lot goes somewhere in the bush. Either way, fabbing up a new (stronger) tab and then mounting onto that should reduce the likelihood of it breaking again.

Got it, thank you.


Your guys thoughts on having it welded without removing the engine? Maybe just removing swing arm (and fuel tank of course!).

J

 

[Jakobi]

Thats all I did. And disconnect CDI just to be safe!

 

[husley]

I do not have easy access to another GasGas to make a template for the kickstand bracket.

I am guessing I can just make my own that is approximately the correct size and shape? Once it is installed/welded in place I can mark and drill the hole for the chain roller bolt.

 

[Longboardr]

This was my fix. Welded a piece of flat stock to a piece of angle iron. The flat stock takes up the space of the broken off piece. The angle iron holds on the inside of the frame. Been working just fine.

 

[husley]

This was my fix. Welded a piece of flat stock to a piece of angle iron. The flat stock takes up the space of the broken off piece. The angle iron holds on the inside of the frame. Been working just fine.

Wow, so the part pictured is not welded to the frame?

 

[Longboardr]

Wow, so the part pictured is not welded to the frame?

Nope, it's not welded to the frame. Short of pulling the swing arm and the engine I couldn't figure out a way to get a good angle on the MIG to weld on a new piece to the frame.

What I made gets held in place by the chain roller bolt. The angle iron catches the inside lip of the frame and keeps the chain roller bolt from being able to move towards the rear of the bike. I did have to shorten the piece of tubing that goes through the chain roller or I wouldn't have been able to get the bolt started because the shock linkage is in the way. I made it 1/8" shorter, the same as the thickness of the angle iron.