Steveheritage
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I recently bought an 2018 ec 300 and my son is wondering when his new bike is coming? Does anyone know if gasgas plans on making an 85 or 125 in the near future?
My son keeps asking?
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CDN Rick
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Good question. I doubt we'll see anything at EICMA this year. But maybe for 2020?
CDN Rick
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I'd bet you're correct on this. And/or a full size 4T bike.
CDN Rick
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Will it still be called a GasGas?? Or will it be a BatteryBattery? Maybe ZipZap?
Well, I had several times the chance to ride the ktm electric Freeride and I loved it.
I can’t wait to see the ALTA BIkes here in Germany. I definitely want one.
It is so much fun, gust to ride the bike, without thinking about stalling the engine.
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I can’t wait to see the ALTA BIkes here in Germany. I definitely want one.
It is so much fun, gust to ride the bike, without thinking about stalling the engine.
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Zman
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My sons have been riding since they were 3.5 and 4yrs old. There is a HUGE difference between a 85 and 125. What does he ride now and how tall is he? For him to be safe and so both of you have fun I would find him something that fits his size and riding capabilty.
85cc MX bikes are light, offer terrific suspension and brakes, but the engines are much less forgiving for trail riding. 125cc MX bikes are similar but are as tall as a full size bike and typically weigh 200 to 220 lbs after. GG made a EC 125 that has nicer manners with some low end and midrange but they are a little hard to find.
A really good option for an in between bike is the KX100. Yes it took me a while to get over the color but it was the only real option in that size for a light weight bike with good suspension and brakes. The KX100 engine is based upon the KX85 engine and it shares much of the port sizes so it is less peaky with the extra 15ccs. It has decent low end and good midrange. The KX100s make great transition bikes from smaller 4 stroke bikes toward big bikes.
They are also more fun for fathers to ride than 85cc bikes ;-)
85cc MX bikes are light, offer terrific suspension and brakes, but the engines are much less forgiving for trail riding. 125cc MX bikes are similar but are as tall as a full size bike and typically weigh 200 to 220 lbs after. GG made a EC 125 that has nicer manners with some low end and midrange but they are a little hard to find.
A really good option for an in between bike is the KX100. Yes it took me a while to get over the color but it was the only real option in that size for a light weight bike with good suspension and brakes. The KX100 engine is based upon the KX85 engine and it shares much of the port sizes so it is less peaky with the extra 15ccs. It has decent low end and good midrange. The KX100s make great transition bikes from smaller 4 stroke bikes toward big bikes.
They are also more fun for fathers to ride than 85cc bikes ;-)
hadfield4wd
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Depending on how old he is. I would think a 200cc Ranger would be awesome.
Steveheritage
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Thanks for the replies, he is 12 years old has been riding enduro
For 2-3 years he is tall now 5?5? 130 lbs and currently rides a Honda crf 150
I think he needs a much better suspension/adjustable and I am trying to get him into a 2 stroke. I have tried to get him to ride my old GG 250
, he seams a bit afraid of it although he can touch the ground on his tippy toes!
He keeps asking when GG is coming out with a smaller bike.
Have looked at the kx100
For 2-3 years he is tall now 5?5? 130 lbs and currently rides a Honda crf 150
I think he needs a much better suspension/adjustable and I am trying to get him into a 2 stroke. I have tried to get him to ride my old GG 250
, he seams a bit afraid of it although he can touch the ground on his tippy toes!
He keeps asking when GG is coming out with a smaller bike.
Have looked at the kx100
CDN Rick
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Next year GasGas is coming out with a smaller bike. Expect full details in about 2 months from the EICMA show in spain. It will be called the ECRanger. Supposed to come in 200cc and 300cc flavours with pipes and mapping that will focus on torque. 46mm KYB suspension and a proper frame. Might be worth a serious look for you.
In Europe all details are known...
Price in Germany
EC200 ranger 6290,-€
EC300 ranger 6490,-€
Details are on the GasGas website
https://gasgas.com/en/enduro/548/41/ec-ranger-2019
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Price in Germany
EC200 ranger 6290,-€
EC300 ranger 6490,-€
Details are on the GasGas website
https://gasgas.com/en/enduro/548/41/ec-ranger-2019
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Zman
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That is a difficult age and it is a big transition from the small / mid sized bikes to the full sized bikes. Riding a 250 on open / easy terrain is very different than riding an enduro on a 250. At 13, my son was 5'7" (1.7m) tall and he was getting too big for his kx100.
Cost has always been an issue for this hobby so we were looking for a good deal for his next bike which was going to be a full size. If at all possible we wanted to find a GG. The GG 200, 250 and 300 all are the same size and weight. The KX100 is 165lbs (75kg) wet. While we were not looking to put him 300 we came across a good deal on 2004 DE300 basket case. It literally came in boxes and baskets but that is another story.
For his age, my son was very level headed and had excellent throttle control so I figured we would give the 300 a shot. We did a full ground up rebuild together over the winter which was a terrific bonding and learning project.
We knew that starting a big bike was going to be a challenge. While my son was tall enough to ride the big bike he only weighed 135 lbs. We had the 300 cylinder head modified with a compression release button which helped starting. Open faster terrain was fine but honestly the bike was difficult for him to ride single track which he really enjoyed on his KX100. It took a year or two for him to ride the bigger bike comfortably in difficult terrain. Even then we found that wrestling the 300 through difficult terrain was a serious work out and it resulted in fatigue. I ultimately found GG125 that he rode for enduros and he rode his 300 for faster more open terrain. The GG200, 250 and 300s weigh 250 wet the 125 is 220 wet.
I think the biggest challenge is the weight difference. We had a similar challenge with my second son and my Godson when they transitioned from the KX100 and KLX140 to GG200s. Adding 50 to 80 lbs (20 to 35kg) to the weight and adding 2 inches (5cm) to a bike is a huge difference while riding and falling.
We found another GG 125 for my God daughter and that transition from the mid bike to the big bike was much easier.
This change will add many smiles with the big bike extra power and suspension, but be prepared that it will also add frustration along the way.
One last thing - Proper bike set up for his size and weight is very important especially seat height and suspension tuning.
Good luck with your search and transition!
Zman
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I was digging through photos and found that my younger son started riding a GG200 at the age of 12. Like everything it takes time to learn the new bike. We used the lowering dog bone links in the suspension and dropped the fork preload and lowered the front end in the triple clamps to match the lowered rear. Within a year or so we were able to adjust the suspension back up to stock ride height.
