Rear Wheel Axle

[singletracker]

I have a heck of a time getting the rear wheel axle out. It's like it is wedged in there, and it takes a lot more force to get it out than it should. I've resorted to a long punch and hammer, and I've pried it out little at a time with claw hammer until it is about 4 inches or so out then it pulls out easily.

The best thing is probably the long punch and hammer, but I'm worried about messing up the end of the axle. It's been like this since new.

Is there a trick that I'm missing?

2011 250 Race

 

[GMP]

Something is very wrong. It should be an easy one handed pull if greased. Is it bent? Burred? Roll it on a known flat surface. Check fit in wheel off the bike.

 

[singletracker]

Interesting. I'll check it off the bike like you suggested when I get a chance.

The wheel rolls smoothly, and there is no other signs of things being awry.

 

[johnnyo]

I had the same thing on mine. I replaced the wheel bearings in it right before that race we ran at LEOR. it was the same way. We pried on it from one end and used a punch on the other. it was all rusted in there. Cleaned it all up real good with a wire wheel and greased it up real good. Now it comes out like GMP said. There are 3 bearings inside that hub too B.T.W.

Note: I bought the bike used from a gentleman on the Gulf Coast of AL. Everything is rusted on it from all the salt water blowing in I guess.

 

[singletracker]

That kind of sucks. My bearings feel tight and its been this way since the first time I took the wheel off. My bearings shouldn't have been rusted considering I bought the bike new.

BTW, I always put Belray waterproof grease on the axle before reinstalling.

Thanks for the input John. Are you going to Roselawn, IN this weekend for the enduro?

 

[bowhunter007]

I had purchased a used bike, that I had similar problems. One of the bearings was installed ever-so-slightly crooked. It doesn't take much to make the axle not want to come out.

 

[singletracker]

I'll check that out too. Thanks.

 

[Jakobi]

I find it can bind up a bit on the RHS (brake side) due to some dirt and grit around the spacers on that side. Only ever an issue if its been coated in mud and left to sit for weeks on end. Even then it doesnt seize in, just needs a tap to start it coming out. When clean and lubed its an easy slide in and out one hand job. Got some good suggestions here. I'd try things like feeding the axle through the hub off the bike. It should slide easy. If it does then try and start identifying the part which causes the issues, before investigating why.

 

[singletracker]

I wish it was something as simple as dirt, but it's been like this since new and it is always difficult to get it out.

Honestly, I though it was the nature of the GG beast since it's been that way since new. It must be a manufacturers defect, but I'm sure it's too late to get it taken care of under warranty.

I'll take the wheel off when I get a chance and check it out closer.

Thanks for all of the suggestions.

 

[lonetree]

hate to post this but...
my first gasser had this problem, it was an old second, or third hand old bike...
one day the "wheel bearings" went, not long after they had been replaced...
the bearing seating surface was damaged and the bearing fell out easily...
the bike had a bent rear axel, right in the middle, but with no obvious signs.. maybe from the factory, maybe someone used it for a crowbar, i dont know.. but it wrecked the hub... check your axel for straightness...

 

[singletracker]

Will do. It looks like I'll be pulling the rear wheel tomorrow. I have a race this weekend, so I hope I don't find anything too bad.

 

[johnnyo]

Let us know what you end up finding. I'm especially curious since we have the same year Gassers.

About your other question for me, Given my lack luster showing at the enduro we ran, I think I'm gonna wait this one out and try to let these tendons in my elbows get better. I hate not being able to finish races because of pain. Maybe we can get together at one soon.

 

[singletracker]

[I think I'm gonna wait this one out and try to let these tendons in my elbows get better. I hate not being able to finish races because of pain. Maybe we can get together at one soon.[/QUOTE]

That's probably a good idea to wait it out. Tendons can take awhile to heal, especially for us old farts.

 

[gasser]

I wish it was something as simple as dirt, but it's been like this since new and it is always difficult to get it out.

Honestly, I though it was the nature of the GG beast since it's been that way since new. It must be a manufacturers defect, but I'm sure it's too late to get it taken care of under warranty.

It may not be too late. I purchased my 07 bike from GoFasters and it came with a front axel that was machined too small. It went through bearings very fast and took me over a year to find the problem but Mark replaced the axel at no cost as soon as I told him of the problem.

 

[GMP]

It may just be rough plating, or plating thats too thick. Clean it up and work it with a scotchbrite pad as long as it looks straight when rolled on a known flat surface. Also measure it with decent calipers.

 

[singletracker]

What should it measure?

 

[singletracker]

Well, after inspecting everything discussed I've come to the conclusion that the end of the inner wheel spacer has a slight burr on the sprocket side. It may have been mushroomed out a little when installed at the factory. Some steel wool or scotch bright might take care of it, but I'm concerned about getting grit in the bearings if I use scotch bright on it while it's installed. I definitely won't use steel wool on it while installed.

Any suggestions or am I buggered until I take it out?

 

[Jakobi]

The actual spacer between the bearings inside the hub?? I'd get a small round file, slap some grease around and slightly shave it down. Shouldn't end up with too much swarf. The bearings are sealed so shouldn't end up in them, and if any does and blows the bearings out just slap a fresh set in. You'd have to do that if removing them to clean it up anyway.

 

[singletracker]

The actual spacer between the bearings inside the hub?? I'd get a small round file, slap some grease around and slightly shave it down. Shouldn't end up with too much swarf. The bearings are sealed so shouldn't end up in them, and if any does and blows the bearings out just slap a fresh set in. You'd have to do that if removing them to clean it up anyway.

I'm talking about the long sleeve that is in between the left and right side bearings. I'm not sure I want to chance getting filings in the bearings right before a 70 mile enduro. I may just wait to mess with it.

 

[singletracker]

I changed my mind and filed on it very carefully, but it is still a tight fit. Something must be skewed a little bit. The wheel turns freely and the bearings are tight, so for now I will live with it.