Thinking of getting some suspension tunage.

lgr

lgr

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Hey guys, our riding season is about over and the snow has arrived. Over the coming winter I've been thinking on sending my suspension away for work. I am pretty handy with things but don't have the spare time to learn/perform major suspension work.

What kind of information should I have on hand when I speak to a tuner? I don't race, but some of the guys I ride with suggest maybe fast b class level. I weigh around 260 lbs geared up and like to ride technical rocky single track, but we do occasionally hit some more flowing fourth gear plus stuff.

Riding an 09 ec 300 with Sachs front and rear.
I'm doubting that I have the ability to properly setup clickers etc, as I've never messed with them very much.
Thanks to help from the forum the engine is jetted super nice so I'm looking for the next step in handling.

Thanks
 
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lgr said:
Hey guys, our riding season is about over and the snow has arrived. Over the coming winter I've been thinking on sending my suspension away for work. I am pretty handy with things but don't have the spare time to learn/perform major suspension work.

What kind of information should I have on hand when I speak to a tuner? I don't race, but some of the guys I ride with suggest maybe slower A class level. I weigh around 260 lbs geared up and like to ride technical rocky single track, but we do occasionally hit some more flowing fourth gear plus stuff.

Riding an 09 ec 300 with Sachs front and rear.
I'm doubting that I have the ability to properly setup clickers etc, as I've never messed with them very much.
Thanks to help from the forum the engine is jetted super nice so I'm looking for the next step in handling.

Thanks
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You'll be amazed what can happen with properly tuned suspension. I'd suggest sending to me (foolish if I didn't, right?) but Les Tenius of LTR also has a lot of experience with the Sachs.

In either case you can PM me and we'll get you up to speed on where your suspenders are now and where they need to go.
 
twowheels said:
You'll be amazed what can happen with properly tuned suspension.
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Not a truer spoken word.

Definitely find a tuner who has worked with the Sachs and has a solid baseline for them. Steve, or Les, both have this. Dave at STM was chasing some Sachs internals a while back for some r&d. Not sure where he got to with it all.
 
I have been down this road and the best advice is to tell the tuner (i used Steve - and still bounce questions off him) what type of riding you do and more importantly what it is about your current suspension that you do not like (and a lesser extent what you do like).

This is not as easy as it sounds because the saying goes "the best suspension you know is the best suspension you have ridden", so i just set the bar high and based my wants on being able to ride over rocks and roots as though i was driving a Bentley on a new freeway! we are still getting there! But honestly the more information you can give the tuner just in terms of how you feel it when you ride the better, you may find that your issues can be solved by a change in oil height or clickers (being a long way away from Steve we went through all of the easy-fixes before we decided that a shim/revalve was required and there are now very few rides i go on where i don't poop myself a little and then thank Steve for his work!
 
swazi_matt said:
I have been down this road and the best advice is to tell the tuner (i used Steve - and still bounce questions off him) what type of riding you do and more importantly what it is about your current suspension that you do not like (and a lesser extent what you do like).

This is not as easy as it sounds because the saying goes "the best suspension you know is the best suspension you have ridden", so i just set the bar high and based my wants on being able to ride over rocks and roots as though i was driving a Bentley on a new freeway! we are still getting there! But honestly the more information you can give the tuner just in terms of how you feel it when you ride the better, you may find that your issues can be solved by a change in oil height or clickers (being a long way away from Steve we went through all of the easy-fixes before we decided that a shim/revalve was required and there are now very few rides i go on where i don't poop myself a little and then thank Steve for his work!
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Where did you get your shim and revalving done, anywhere in SA perhaps?
 
I rode a friends KTM setup by checkpoint and was amazed. Like riding on a cloud. I'll. Shoot you a pm when I get a chance. On vaca now.
 
My bike was reworked by LTR by the previous owner. I was told it was set up for 180lb rider. I weigh 200-205 and it works perfectly for me. In all my years of riding I've never bothered to do more than an oil or spring change. That was a mistake.
 
twowheels said:
You'll be amazed what can happen with properly tuned suspension. Les Tenius of LTR ,/QUOTE]

Les of LTR did mine this year. Great job very happy with his work. He takes the time to talk to you even tho you fill out a fourm on what you want.
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why not try if you can get it better with just clicker adjustments?
try to set up SAG and ride, see if the balance feels right between front and rear?
maybe you don't need it that bad to spend the extra money.
maybe you can get it close enough for what you do?
sure,it'll be better if you get it fully done by a tuner, just decide if the extra money is worth it for you...
 
WER is easily the best spent money I have ever spent. Turned my bike into a complete dirt weapon, and endurocross machine.
 
The website for Les Tinius at LT-Racing Suspension is :

http://www.lt-racing.com

I wouldn't send the sachs fork to WER. Either Les or Steve... They have some unique issues that require specific experience with this fork.

jeff
 
Thanks for the replies guys. So is there anything to what my buddies tell me. " the western suspension shops can't valve for our riding". Seems like to me if you explain your wishes it can be done. I ride 100 % here in the upper peninsula of Michigan but haven't heard any good recommendations of locals. I'll probably get around to sending my stuff out after christmas. Although we just had a baby and a surgery so it might be a little later in the winter.
 
In the past couple of months I have had my 2011 & 2012 suspension redone for the second time. The first time it was not really bad but it was not what I was looking for. After reading post on this form from Evan at Solid Performance and after talking to him and letting him know what my problems with it was . The suspension was redone by him and it was spot on. I ride in rocks and roots in South Eastern Ky. Maybe these folks can help you some.
 
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