Trade my Husky for a GasGas 200?

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So this is the issue. I have a tricked out 04' Husky TC450 with low miles and in great shape. Its has all the sweet bolt on goodies including Recluse clutch, big tank etc. I'm thinking of trading it for a friends 99' Gas Gas EC200 2 stroker with equally trick parts list such as Ohlins front and rear, rekluse etc. I also own a 03' Cannondale E440R. I like rididng the Cannondale more thank the Husky so owning two big 4-strokes that are very much the same is sorta rediculous. I have never owned a 2 stroke and have limited seat time on them. I did ride the GasGas last week for a couple hours and liked it alot. It runs great, carb is tuned very well and handles pretty good. However I didn't get to ride it in any extreme comditions such as gnarly hill climbs or tight technical single track that I normally ride.

I know the Husky is worth more money. Probably about $2,800 and the Gas Gas is about $1,500 so I would get some cash along with the trade that I can use to do a few mods to the Gas Gas such as tripple clamps/damper mounts. And still have some cash in my pocket to put towards my year long ride to South America this year.

I would like to know if this is a good idea? anyone here ever been a die hard 4 stroke guy that switched to a two stroke? Am I going to regret giving away a perfectly good Husky? The Gas Gas is a pretty friendly motor but is still more demanding than the other. Is it going to kill me on long 75+ mile days of single track? I do like the idea of having a bike that is cheap to maintain (no valve adjustments or head rebuilds). When I return from South America after a year of traveling I will be broke and with out a job but still want to ride.

Also is it possible to do a Big Bore kit to the 200.. Maybe a 250 or 300 kit?

What are your thoughts.. :D
 
i switched from an 04 te450 to a 2000 gg200.

imho best switch i ever made.

i felt the te450 was heavy and overheated in extreme conditions frequently.. the 200 has none of these problems. i don't even miss the big torque difference. the electric starter on the 04 te450 was problematic (auto-decomp wear) for me. the annoying exhaust backfire also drove me nuts. i put more money into the te450 in a year than i will in 3 years for the gasgas...(04 had titanium valves..) of course the te450 was easy to do valve adjusts on, but not as easy as the gasgas :)

the gasgas doesn't wear me out like the husky did. with the extra money get your suspension redone (ltr), and a steering dampener..

i would much rather be running the 200 through the tight single track than muscling that beast husky through it......the gasgas is way more user friendly. it'll climb any hill the te450 would, it's all operator error at that point...



you can't big bore the 200. you gotta swap motors. at one time i had considered swapping motors, but i'm happy with my 200...at the end of a race i don't gotta worry about whiskey throttle issues, and fatigue stuff as much as i would with a 250 or 300 i think...


pm me and i can extoll more virtues of the te450 to gg200 switch..
 
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I owned a 'Dale and my bro a TE450. To me its simple, if you like the tight woods where fast handlig, light weight, and the ability to grunt around without overheating the 450s are just too big IMO. For faster more open trails and dual sport type stuff they are great.
 
I'd sell the husky and try and find a newer 200, but then again I don't know the model year changes so 99 may be very similar to a 01 or 02.
 
99 should have the conventional forks,be a great bike if its in great shape,I would look for an '05 on up,you can find some great deals on them and they have most of the updates and they really rip,07 on up had the one piece tail section,and color changed to either red and then later on red or a white model
 
If you do get the 99 ec 200 with conventenal forks, I have a set of 03 USD WP forks and clamps for sale. I also have all the front brake parts.
 
Test ride

Great! Thanks everyone for the info. I took the Gas Gas out to day for a few hours at Hollister Hills. I mostly rode on the Renz property witch is mostly tight medium level single track. The Gas Gas was so much fun. I'm starting to understand the whole two stroke thing.

This one has Ohlins front and rear from a Cannondale so it handles very nicely. Its the Dale S440 suspenders so the springs are a little stiff for my liking. I played with the clickers all day long and got it tuned pretty well. Still stiff though. Maybe I'm just so used to having a bigger heavier and better planted bike. I think a steering damper is mandatory on the Gasser. I have one and will put it on if I buy the Gas Gas. Handling was very good and changes directions is very quick and easy.

Seems like everything else on the bike performed perfect. The engine has very good torque and seems very easy to ride and I was surprised at what a good long powerband it has. Great fun! I was even able to find a couple damp area's with plentiful traction and could really hook up the rear tire and see just how fast it is. Its not even close to the Husky but thats ok. It still pulls very hard and shifts through the gears effortlessly. Also had no boil over unlike the husky. That thing over heats very quickly even when ridding 2nd and 3rd gear trails in hot weather. My Cannondale never did that:confused: .

I understand I could probably get one a couple years newer but from what I have gathered from this site is that there weren't any major updates to these bikes for a few years and to buy say a 2005+ I would be spending a lot more money. This one here has a completely new engine with less that a couple hours on it. New clutch, all the bolt on protection stuff you can get. Ohlins suspension, Guts seat, Recluse clutch (not installed) and more. Plus a Whole bunch of spare parts including extra suspension (marzochi's) radiators, and more.

Seems like a good deal to be what do you think?
 
Sounds like you are hooked....was that funmachines bike?

Yes it is/was. :)

I'd have to agree with roostafish
sounds pretty good to me.
Plus your getting a little cash on the side too right??

Ya it will give me just enough money to rebuild my Dale motor! So I'm sorta getting two bikes for one. Dale has about 300 hours on the engine and is now ready for a new crank and top end mods. Still runs pretty good though.

This is cool someone localish with a GG. I don't think you will regret that deal at all. You know about SBR?

Ya i'm in Boulder Creek. I don't ever go in SBR. I prefer ADVrider and now this site :)

Anyone want to buy a Husky? :D
 
Ya looks like I'm going to as soon as I sell the Husky. I will be posting it up for sale this week if a friend of mine doesnt buy it from me first.

Was this your bike before Funmachines bought it? The previous owner did a full engine rebuild and it sure runs good. I would like to know what the "squish" was set at and what exactly does "squish" mean? I'm assuming it has to do with compression.
 
Long story short....no it's not my old bike. That bike belong to a very good buddy of mine...really his wife. She used to have a KTM EXC200, until she rode my EC200, then HAD to have one. Her husband is an excellent wrench, fact is, he wrenchs on top dollar euro sports cars, anyway, he went through that bike from steering stem to rear wheel bearings. It has not been rode hard and put away wet! He is also a GasGas rider, EC300 is his weapon of choice. I am about 99% sure that the squish mod has not been done on that motor, she is 100% bone stock.

Did funmachine put the Ohlins forks on it? Last time I talked to him, that was his plan.

Anyway good luck.
 
Long story short....no it's not my old bike. That bike belong to a very good buddy of mine...really his wife. She used to have a KTM EXC200, until she rode my EC200, then HAD to have one. Her husband is an excellent wrench, fact is, he wrenchs on top dollar euro sports cars, anyway, he went through that bike from steering stem to rear wheel bearings. It has not been rode hard and put away wet! He is also a GasGas rider, EC300 is his weapon of choice. I am about 99% sure that the squish mod has not been done on that motor, she is 100% bone stock.

Did funmachine put the Ohlins forks on it? Last time I talked to him, that was his plan.

Anyway good luck.

Well that sure is nice to hear! I did get to see the pic's of the engine being rebuilt.

Ya Funmachines put the full Cannondale front end on. Forks, Clamps, Brakes, Wheel all from a Dale. I have no idea if the fork clamp offset is different but it sure rides nice.

I went back to Hollister Hills today. It rained last night and made the soil ohh so nice! Tacky dirt and no dust! I'm starting to really understand the whole two stroke thing now. Coming from 450's its a big change. I just love the light weight of the Gasser. I got stuck half way up a couple of very steep rutted out hill climbs and was able to turn the bike around much quicker and with alot less effort that with the 450. I think I finally found some good settings on the suspension. Handles very good now. Still needs that Scotts Damper on the bars and some taller Pastrana bend Pro Tapers and it will be set!
 
Very cool, I'm sure that the Ohlins forks are nice. Did funmachines get the rear shock sorted out? When he got the bike, the OEM stuff was shortend for short rider?

I am 5'11 and I find the cockpit just a tab small, but I ride standing most of the time. I have Hebo Fat Bars on mine and works out really well.

We'll need to hook up sometime, spring, and head up to Elkins Flat or someother place with some really nice singletrack.

Enjoy
 
Yes the rear shock is a new Ohlins with a nice stiff spring that matches the front end. How tall are the Hebo Fat Bars? I haven't looked in a while but the Pastrana Pro Tapers were the tallest bars available. I also stand most of the time and like very tall bars with tall risers. I'm thinking some lower and wider pegs would also be nice.

Anyone have a recomendation for some good tall bar risers? Rocky Mountain (I think) sells some for about 20 bucks but they are not al that tall. Maybe I will just machine some.

Elkins flat sounds like fun. I have never been there. I really like going to Forrest Hill outside of Auburn and also Stoneyford is a blast. I'm going to Gorman with a buddy next month for a 4 day trip. The surrounding National forrest supposedly has some great single track. I have never been there.
 
I have NO idea on the raise of the bars, I ordered them from Go.Fasters and bolted them up! Nice bars though!

Well enjoy your self at Gorman, we'll hook up soon.

Enjoy your new bike.
 
My best suggestion for bar risers would be to go with a BRP triple clamp for an under bar mount steering damper. Even if you don't run a damper, that gets the bars up in a reasonable spot. I'd then go with either the Ricky Charmichael high bend, or the MSR Freestyle bend.

I have the MSR freestyle bend right now and am very pleased. It's 121mm tall, which, if you do the math is a full inch taller than the old CR High bend. It's also 30.5" from the factory, so I don't have to cut it down.
Best of all, it comes in a kit with grips, grip donuts, and a nice bar pad for about $75.
 
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