Trials bike and enduro parts?

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lankydoug

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Does anyone know if the GasGas trials bike parts and the enduro parts are both distributed by the same wholesaler, Gofasters? Also do the trials bike dealers have to compete with the wholesaler in the retail market just like the enduro dealers do?

I'm looking in to buying another trials bike and would like to know this before I make a choice.
 
lankydoug said:
Does anyone know if the GasGas trials bike parts and the enduro parts are both distributed by the same wholesaler, Gofasters? Also do the trials bike dealers have to compete with the wholesaler in the retail market just like the enduro dealers do?

I'm looking in to buying another trials bike and would like to know this before I make a choice.
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i dont think so.. when i had my 02 txt200 and needed a few parts, i had to go thru a trials dealer.. gf could not get them.. they did, however, help me to correctly identify it...
would love to have another one, should have never sold it..
 
Hey Doug, I'm still waiting to hear from my Beta source BUT my GG trials source is always ready to help me....GG has been no issue for me at this point and I've had mine for 2 years now
 
lankydoug said:
Does anyone know if the GasGas trials bike parts and the enduro parts are both distributed by the same wholesaler, Gofasters? Also do the trials bike dealers have to compete with the wholesaler in the retail market just like the enduro dealers do?

I'm looking in to buying another trials bike and would like to know this before I make a choice.
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Parts for the trails bikes are handled by a separate entity trialspartsusa.com. I don't believe that they sell direct to the public, and it even took awhile to get them to sell me, as a GasGas enduro (but not trials) dealer, parts.

As a related aside, GoFasters is weaning themselves off of the current model retail market as well, beginning I think with the 2011 model year, although Mark would be a better one to give a definitive answer.
 
twowheels said:
As a related aside, GoFasters is weaning themselves off of the current model retail market as well, beginning I think with the 2011 model year, although Mark would be a better one to give a definitive answer.
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What does "weaning themselves off" mean? No longer distribute/sell parts, or distribute, but not sell to retail? Can you please elaborate? Thanks.
 
blitz11 said:
What does "weaning themselves off" mean? No longer distribute/sell parts, or distribute, but not sell to retail? Can you please elaborate? Thanks.
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As best as I understand they (GoFasters) are directing riders of 2011 and 12 bikes to dealers for parts - although we stock parts for many model years before that and welcome that business - while still retailing accessories and OE parts for models 2010 and prior. They remain the exclusive importer of GasGas enduro bike parts into the US.
 
trials parts

We do stock some trials parts but get them all from the trials parts distributors in Rising Sun Imports, but i don't know too much about them...wheres the dang seat? :eek:

Lewis Sport in California is a larger trials dealer and knowledgable with the trials industry and all brand trials bikes.


But most of your local dealers can and will help with both enduro and trial. Rising Sun has a very good database on their website as well.


Two Wheels is correct about our agreement with GG offroad.
 
I have ordered parts directly from Rising Sun in the past.... But it was a long time ago. The website for them is at www.trialspartsusa.com and jim snell the owner knows more about the trials bikes than anyone else...

jeff
 
I was gonna stay out of this but I can't:
1. Selling parts direct: At one time there was less than five stocking off road dealers. It was impossible for customers to find a dealer anywhere near them with parts. Also, due to the numbers needed to support this business, GF needed the extra margin. They were promised a customer base of 500 units a year but only got 50. Since we have taken over they have started cutting back but it can't be done quickly. Dealers still do not always want to stock the depth that is sometimes needed. It's hard to do. Not blaming the dealers...they have cash flow issues too. The newer guys especially don't want to stock parts for much older models.
2. Pricing: GF's pricing is based on an acceptable percentage increase over what the factory charges. Most of the time it is the factory pricing that is out of line. It isn't fair to expect a company doing 8000 units to be competitive with a company doing 80,000 units on all parts. In addition, the freight that GF pays is pretty unbelievable. Mark sent me a pic of 2 crates that he got in that he was charged $1700 in freight alone. The crates we're huge, right? Nope...about 4x4x4. We've tried to help with space in our containers but we have only gotten one container in 10 months. That freight cost has to be passed along. In addition, Mark goes to great effort to find aftermarket substitutions when the OEM oparts are too high. I'm always surprised when a guy who owns a trials bike complains about pricing. How much is a trials fender?
3. Delivery: Mark is a one man show. How hard is it to find an off road parts guy in Ortonville, MN? Pretty damn hard. Also, every brand has back orders. So does Gas Gas.

I know that you guys want Gas Gas to be where the orange company is on pricing, availability and delivery but it took them 15 years to get there. Don't expect Go Fasters to get there in 1 1/2 years.

Doug, please don't think my rant is directed at you since you started this thread. It's not. This has accumulated over the last few weeks from different complaints about parts issues. I just used this thread to vent. Sorry!
Clay
 
To be fair, some of the out of line part prices have dropped back in line in the last few years. For example clutch parts for the 125. The inner hub used to cost 350 and now costs 149. That is from the Canadian importer so I am thinking that GasGas Spain must be paying attention and doing what they can. On the other side of the coin we have watched the japan parts increase and become less available with longer wait times. Try and buy a spoke for a 2008 yz 450. You can't, you have to buy the complete set with nipples. I have no issue with GG parts supply. I would like to see aftermarket plastic be more available, but that's about it.
 
Clay said:
3. Delivery: Mark is a one man show. How hard is it to find an off road parts guy in Ortonville, MN? Pretty damn hard. Also, every brand has back orders. So does Gas Gas.

I know that you guys want Gas Gas to be where the orange company is on pricing, availability and delivery but it took them 15 years to get there. Don't expect Go Fasters to get there in 1 1/2 years.
Clay
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I don't understand these two comments. Actually, i think GoFasters and Mark ARE ahead of the orange brand. Mark knows the brand, and with his expertise, knows what to stock, and how much.

I've waited much longer for KTM parts than I have for GG parts. I don't recall ever waiting for a part from GF. Granted, i ride an older bike, but GG designs are evolutionary, which makes it easier from a stocking point of view. Their business model is pretty well set. The reason I bought a GG was from a visit to Ortonville to see how parts availability would be. My visit with them sealed the deal.

What isn't clear to me is how parts will be sold for older models. As far as I know, there aren't any GG dealers in MN. GF IS in Minnesota. Do I still buy parts from them, or another dealer in another state? Is there a policy in place for that?

I really like GF, and want to support them as much as I can. Great people, great service.
 
If it weren't for the direct sale parts supply model from GF over the last few years, GG might be dead in the USA. I remember this being discussed before and it was always a temporary situation until unit sales and dealers reached a certain number sufficient to support the customer base. With what other brand can you talk to both the bike and parts importers directly, and on a public forum? Think about that.

KTM doesn't even have a phone number, or they didn't when I needed one for a couple of problems.
 
well.. along time ago, i bought my first gg.. needed a few parts, called gofasters, Mark answered the phone and fixed me up.. he took the concerns of owning the brand away.. another time, i just had a question.. called on my cel at lunch, he was not there..told who ever i would call back.. did not leave a name or number.. 15 minutes later, he called me back.. pretty cool..
we did have a problem.. a pretty big one.. but i judge a company by how it takes care of problems.. we all have them and this was one, no matter how hard he and i tried, it just got worse.. He had no legal obligation to help me, but did any way.. very cool.. thru all that, i have his personal cel number.. try to get that with any ktm guy.. any hair braind idea i have... i can pop him a text and he always responds.. just sent me some stuff i never thought i could get..
i have never waited on parts more than a week, to my door.. and i live a long way away from them.. price wise, i dont think it is out of line, for as cool as the bikes are..
remember .... cool stuff aint cheap, and cheap stuff aint cool...

jay
 
blitz11 said:
I don't understand these two comments. Actually, i think GoFasters and Mark ARE ahead of the orange brand. Mark knows the brand, and with his expertise, knows what to stock, and how much.

I've waited much longer for KTM parts than I have for GG parts. I don't recall ever waiting for a part from GF. Granted, i ride an older bike, but GG designs are evolutionary, which makes it easier from a stocking point of view. Their business model is pretty well set. The reason I bought a GG was from a visit to Ortonville to see how parts availability would be. My visit with them sealed the deal.

What isn't clear to me is how parts will be sold for older models. As far as I know, there aren't any GG dealers in MN. GF IS in Minnesota. Do I still buy parts from them, or another dealer in another state? Is there a policy in place for that?


I really like GF, and want to support them as much as I can. Great people, great service.
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You can still buy parts for pre-2010 models from GF.
 
There are some very good stocking dealers that do UPS daily, like Smith's and Hall's.
 
MrBlah said:
thank god I can get 2010 parts, I'm NOT driving 6+ hours to get parts, thankfully my 2011 can get by with mostly 2010 parts
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With internet and email, the current model of visiting a dealer to get parts doesn't seem to be entirely necessary, especially if you already know what parts you want. Unless you want to visit the dealer of course.

I live 2 hours from my closest gasgas dealer, and I'v never even set foot in their store. I just email them with what I want, they email me back within a few hours, I tell them to send me an invoice then I pay via CC or bank deposit, then the things turn up a few days later. The $6 for the tracked courier seems almost trivial compared to cost of actually going to the shop.
JMO.

I think any dealer who doesn't want to get left behind will embrace online ordering.
The dealer that I part time at has three staff, two at the front counter and one who is almost exclusively deals with online sales.
 
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