Which rims lace up to GG hubs?
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gasser
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The lacing pattern is different on gasgas wheels so some spoke holes are drilled at a different angle than on other bikes. Any company that makes wheels can drill their rims for gassers and most if not all will. EXELL sells their blemished rims at a discount and sometimes have gasser rims. Check their website.
I know the complete 1994 Honda CR 250 rear wheel will install exactly onto my 2011 EC300, I just checked it this weekend even the rotor slides into the caliper perfectly.
The 94 CR 250 front axle is 17mm and smaller than the GasGas front axle(25mm). However the GasGas Nissan brake calipers and 94 Cr 250 brakes are the same except the caliper carriers are a little different/and shorter.
The 94 CR 250 front axle is 17mm and smaller than the GasGas front axle(25mm). However the GasGas Nissan brake calipers and 94 Cr 250 brakes are the same except the caliper carriers are a little different/and shorter.
memphis2857
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McNut has a set of black wheels for sale also.
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hadfield4wd
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I'll post in this. I broke my hub racing yesterday. So I'm thinking I will lace up my spare hub. Then I started looking at new rims. Man they are expensive and I haven't yet found the Excel rims that are supposed to work.
Anybody ever polish rims? I could polish mine up and either spray them or maybe even anodize them. I'll inspect them closer to make sure there are no dents etc.
I have experience building wheels so I'm not worried about that. Any idea what length spokes for the front? I like the excel stainless spokes with the spline drive.
Anybody ever polish rims? I could polish mine up and either spray them or maybe even anodize them. I'll inspect them closer to make sure there are no dents etc.
I have experience building wheels so I'm not worried about that. Any idea what length spokes for the front? I like the excel stainless spokes with the spline drive.
Call Excel USA 760-732-3161,and ask for tech assistance. They will tell you exactly which model rims work and they will give you the part number which vary one digit according to color, then start shopping using the part number. I bought excel rims for my 94 CR 250 and I am buying another set for my 84 RM 250 restoration. It?s around $170 for the front and $200 for the rear. I have a truing stand so I lace and true them myself, no biggie. Good luck!
I have to agree with some of what's been said alredy.
Buying used complete wheels makes a lot sense.
The cost of the wheels and spokes these days has made that option quite expensive.
Lacing the wheel and truing the wheel not really a big deal but still takes some time.
Every wheel I've ever built using Buchanan spokes also had to have the spokes ground down.Skinny wheeled.Whatever.Fit for length.
It turns out to be a lot of work, time and expense especially considering they are usually going on an older bike.
New is cool but honestly if you are riding the bike a lot and changing tires a lot the newness is gone pretty quick.
And I've bent EVERY Excel wheel I've ever had.
The Buch spokes hold up well if you get the heavy duty spokes.But they aren't cheap.
Figure 4-5 hours to rebuild the wheel by the time its all said and done.
Buying used complete wheels makes a lot sense.
The cost of the wheels and spokes these days has made that option quite expensive.
Lacing the wheel and truing the wheel not really a big deal but still takes some time.
Every wheel I've ever built using Buchanan spokes also had to have the spokes ground down.Skinny wheeled.Whatever.Fit for length.
It turns out to be a lot of work, time and expense especially considering they are usually going on an older bike.
New is cool but honestly if you are riding the bike a lot and changing tires a lot the newness is gone pretty quick.
And I've bent EVERY Excel wheel I've ever had.
The Buch spokes hold up well if you get the heavy duty spokes.But they aren't cheap.
Figure 4-5 hours to rebuild the wheel by the time its all said and done.
hadfield4wd
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Does anybody know the length of spokes?
I’ve never used buchanon. I like the excel spline drive nipples
I won’t buy a used wheelset if I can help it. I like to build wheels and most of the used sets I have bought have several seized spokes.
I know I’ll spend more money but I’ll be far happier. Also I know the tech article on this site says to heat the hub with a propane torch remove the bearings. I’ve never done this before, ever until now. I want to powder coat the hubs and doing that with a torch will affect the finish. I assume you can remove and install bearing without that. I usually stick them in the freezer anyway.
I’ve never used buchanon. I like the excel spline drive nipples
I won’t buy a used wheelset if I can help it. I like to build wheels and most of the used sets I have bought have several seized spokes.
I know I’ll spend more money but I’ll be far happier. Also I know the tech article on this site says to heat the hub with a propane torch remove the bearings. I’ve never done this before, ever until now. I want to powder coat the hubs and doing that with a torch will affect the finish. I assume you can remove and install bearing without that. I usually stick them in the freezer anyway.
hadfield4wd
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Excel does not make spokes for gasgas. Just Buchanan.
The excel rim part numbers are as follows
Front (silver)- ICS434
Rear (silver) - FES433
Does anybody know the torque of the nipples?
The excel rim part numbers are as follows
Front (silver)- ICS434
Rear (silver) - FES433
Does anybody know the torque of the nipples?
hadfield4wd
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Also does anybody know if there are complete wheelsets that will swap over? I can get KTM wheelsets cheap.
Some KTM wheels will swap over depending on years and whether your talking front or rear.Some years they used a common fork basicly.
In some cases the axle diameters will be different but that is easily solved by getting different bearings for the wheel.You just mic the hub(od of bearing) and the axle shaft diameter you are using(inner bearing diameter) and then the width.
Any big bearing supplier will have the bearings and seals you need to build the wheel up or you can get them.
You'll have to match seals also.
In some cases you'll have to custom some spacers for width.
The wheel may not line up with the sprocket and caliper.
Basicly as long as the width measurement from the sprocket to the rotor on the replacement wheel is the same or very close to the same as the stock wheel then you can make it work.
You can also beef up the bearings in the wheel in some cases (I highly reccomend it on rear wheels) by going wider.Their is a lot of things you can do there.Depends on the hub design on what you can get away with.Its tricky but you can usually get a little extra bearing width.
We did it on rear hubs on big bore bikes back in the day.
You couldn't keep rear bearings in the old CR 500s and KX 500s for very long so we had to mod those.
You can usually save a lot of money and time going to bearing and seal distributer over the dealer to get your bearings and seals.
You can get most of what you need if you have the old bearings and seals and or a good set of calipers.
Especially if you have a problem and need to get the bike put back together quick.
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