why a 200 ?

sweeper said:
As I stated early on in the thread,stipulated that the 300 is a seperate beast.Although not the daily driver for many still kinda nice to have around.

I was really trying to get a comparison of the 200 vs the 250.I've got a pretty good idea where they land.I keep hearing the same thing "the fun factor" is great on the 200.Their also are a lot of riders who feel less is more when it comes to displacement.

Personally I ride single track to find a hill.When I find it I wanna stamp it.If there isn't one ,we make one.

I'm not talking about the desert.Take a look at a topographical map of the western states and it will be very clear.

Even though this is a Gas Gas site,I haven't heard any negatives on the 200,
Sometimes what you don't hear says more then what you do hear.
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What yo will be missing is the extra 49.? cc's! The 200 has it's strong points and nasty hill climbs is not it's strong point.

Clutch work will be required.....so will a bit of a run at the hill. It just come on the pipe sooner.....so you have to be ready for it. Even though your bike should have a 2k3 ignition, ( heavy flywheel) it still spolls up like a 125 on steroids. Make sense? Final gearing has an effect.
 
sweeper said:
As I stated early on in the thread,stipulated that the 300 is a seperate beast.Although not the daily driver for many still kinda nice to have around.

I was really trying to get a comparison of the 200 vs the 250.I've got a pretty good idea where they land.I keep hearing the same thing "the fun factor" is great on the 200.Their also are a lot of riders who feel less is more when it comes to displacement.

Personally I ride single track to find a hill.When I find it I wanna stamp it.If there isn't one ,we make one.

I'm not talking about the desert.Take a look at a topographical map of the western states and it will be very clear.

Even though this is a Gas Gas site,I haven't heard any negatives on the 200,
Sometimes what you don't hear says more then what you do hear.
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Here in the Tennessee hills a 250 2stroke will climb as many hills as a 300. On some hills the 250 has the advantage and on others the 300 has the advantage. A 200 is always at a dis advantage. 200 is more fun than the bigger bikes on flat ground.
 
This has been an interesting thread. For me, the 250 2t has been my favorite "know all do all" machine. I desire a 125 2t to play on. It was a ton of fun wringing the living snit outta that bike.
 
Yeah Rog

My 200 has the 2k2. I was checkin that out today.I've got a 2000 exc 200 we are parting out and I believe its got the 2k3.Flywheel has a weight riveted to it.I pulled it and tried it on the Gasser but the flywheel on the ktm has a larger taper so I can't use that.The ignition looks like it will work if I swap over to the Gasser backing plate.Ill have to use tthe Gasser flywheel but based on what I'm reading I don't want the weighted flywheel anyway.
 
Sorry, I'm not familiar with the whole east vs west coast riding scene. A hill is a broad term itself and can vary from a long straight all out climb through to technical switchbacks, or short rock and root infested sections. Again some will favour some bikes.

For me, the 250 is the do it all bike. In saying that, a mate on a ktm 200 gets that thing up everything I can get the gasser up. Another on a husky 125 takes a bit more finess.
 
I have been riding my 200 this spring. Previously I have only ridden a 300 in the woods. A few exceptions for a few laps here or there. I am seriously considering parking the 11 300 in favor of my 2004 200. The main thing I need to do to keep the 200 on pace is create flow. The 300 can power through these inconsistencies. The 200 makes me flow, or it bogs down. I am pry 270 with gear so I am not small. When I am forced to flow, I am not tired as I would have been with my 300. Bottom end of the 200 is very similar to the 300 but it does not allow for riding a gear higher.
I love them both but the 200 is getting the nod for me today, that can change at a moments notice.
 
Sweep,

You already know my thoughts. Owned them all EC300, EC250 and EC200. All 3 are wonderful bikes and I wouldn't hesitate to own any of them again. I just comes down to what you prefer. They can all be effective in our Oregon terrain, its just what your style is and what trade offs you are most willing to live with.

For me, the 200 is least tiring, most fun, and is easier to push it hard when wanting to pick up the pace. The trade off is keeping momentum when long hard hill climbs. But, there is a solution for this: The auto-clutch:D With it, I can hit a nasty climb just like on the 300 or 250 and let off throttle and roll back on. Yes, its cheating and I am a cheater:cool:
 
Wanted to clarify something,the west coast vs east coast thing is not meant to be a derogatory statement in any way.It isnt us against them or our riding is better,harder more challenging then yours.Most of the older vets knew what I meant.In my experience when east coast A/B riders would come out and ride with us they were very very fast in the tight stuff,and usually riding trails they had never seen before that we had wiired.



As far as the 250 vs 200 thing goes.
Sounds like both bikes can get the job dont.
Sounds like most of you would ride either one.

No autoclutch!
 
thejackrabbit said:
my GasGas 200 has a 2k2, but my 2004 ktm 200 exc has a 2k2 with a fly wheel weight permitly attached to it.
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Great timing.,
Got a guy in Washington who crushed his cdi box on a 2004 200 sx when he snapped off a steering stop bolt.
I've got a cdi off a 2000 200 exc that looks like it has a 2k3.
Two questions.
Do you think the cdi will interchange from the 2000 200 exc to the 2004 200 sx.

Am I on the right track having to swap the exc stator and pickup over to the Gas Gas backing plate?
 
my ktm and gasgas wiring hookups to the cdi are the same, except for 3 wires on the gasgas, to me it looks like they are only for lighting and not ignition.

The gasgas cdi has a large connector the plugs into the box then splits in to multiple wires that match the ktm cdi.

The ktm cdi just had the wires coming out of it, no square plug.

All this gets me thinking, if you used a gasgas cdi wiring harness it would be possible to put a rm125 cdi on a ktm. oh god :eek:
 
john r b said:
Weren't the 2k3 only on the 200 sixday model?
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FYI mine's a 2001 and wires coming out of the ignition at 2 o'clock,and she's definately not a six days! (i wish :-p)

And i'm about to make an extra FWW to make it even more tractable.
i find it allready farely torquey, but then i only weight about 75kg in the flesh...
PV cover installed, well jetted, fresh piston and lovin' the 200 :D
 
Thx for that link bowhunter.Thats what I like about this site,you guys got it figured out with these bikes,just gotta know how to dig it up.
 
East vs West I just assumed was different terrain. I honestly don't know which is which.. Down here 90% of us live on the east coast :p

Personally, what I like regarding the 250 over the 200 (at least in theory), is that you have more options. You have the huge PEAK HP that will blow the 300 away if you want to chase it, or you can time the ports, bump the compression, and get it pulling like a tractor too. If you want a change all you need to do is drop a 300 slug cyl and head on and its party time - like having a new bike. It just seems a bit more versatile. Also here, there are some differences in initial purchase price where the 200 is the cheapest and the 300 goes for about 2 grand more. The 250 falls in the middle.

I'm about to bolt up one of walts 165cc kits on a mates husky next month. Now that should be a fun little bike.
 
Jakobi said:
East vs West I just assumed was different terrain. I honestly don't know which is which.. Down here 90% of us live on the east coast :p

Personally, what I like regarding the 250 over the 200 (at least in theory), is that you have more options. You have the huge PEAK HP that will blow the 300 away if you want to chase it, or you can time the ports, bump the compression, and get it pulling like a tractor too. If you want a change all you need to do is drop a 300 slug cyl and head on and its party time - like having a new bike. It just seems a bit more versatile. Also here, there are some differences in initial purchase price where the 200 is the cheapest and the 300 goes for about 2 grand more. The 250 falls in the middle.

I'm about to bolt up one of walts 165cc kits on a mates husky next month. Now that should be a fun little bike.
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One of my main riding buddies rides a husky 165. He has it dialed! He's 230 without gear and that bike has never met a Hill it couldn't climb. Very very awesome bike when dialed.

Of course, it also has a Rekluse... :D
 
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