2013 300XC Sub Frame

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Wan

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I made a big mistake and flipped my bike over backwards,:o the result was I destroyed the plastic sub frame completely to include the rear fender, tail section and air box, the only parts left behind the gas tank is the exterior plastics. :(

I was wondering if anyone knows if a previous year aluminum sub frame would fit on a 2013? Not sure why they went to plastic, :confused: I am not planning on doing this again but, the way things are going you never know.
 
If this is as big a problem as it obviously is(I stand corrected from another thread) it should be a warranty issue from GasGas Spain. Get rid of these plastic bits and send over the aluminium subframe to every friggin owner in the U.S.
 
desertgasser300 said:
If this is as big a problem as it obviously is(I stand corrected from another thread) it should be a warranty issue from GasGas Spain. Get rid of these plastic bits and send over the aluminium subframe to every friggin owner in the U.S.
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I wish they would warranty this.

Has anyone else had any issues with the sub frame? It certainly is not designed to take a hit.
 
There have been a few cases for sure. I would not expect factory help for the subframe if there is none for the water pump covers.


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They appear to have a hybrid subframe. The upper rails are aluminum, all else appears the same or very close. It would be very hard to change to a full alloy conventional design without other major changes, considering how the subframe integrates with the inner fender and air box. I would guess that a major flip with that would still allow you to ride out, but the air box integrity would be questionable. This is just speculation assuming alloy upper rails, and knowing how it all fits together as I've had mine all apart, perhaps they changed other stuff as well.

I believe most of the problem can be fixed with an inner fender design and compound change. The guys who designed this must have been the same who did the cartridge filter air box.


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GMP said:
They appear to have a hybrid subframe. The upper rails are aluminum, all else appears the same or very close. It would be very hard to change to a full alloy conventional design without other major changes, considering how the subframe integrates with the inner fender and air box. I would guess that a major flip with that would still allow you to ride out, but the air box integrity would be questionable. This is just speculation assuming alloy upper rails, and knowing how it all fits together as I've had mine all apart, perhaps they changed other stuff as well.

I believe most of the problem can be fixed with an inner fender design and compound change. The guys who designed this must have been the same who did the cartridge filter air box.


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Thanks for your feed back, that makes sense to me. I hope they come up with some better in the future that will fit this bike.
 
GMP said:
They appear to have a hybrid subframe. The upper rails are aluminum, all else appears the same or very close. It would be very hard to change to a full alloy conventional design without other major changes, considering how the subframe integrates with the inner fender and air box. I would guess that a major flip with that would still allow you to ride out, but the air box integrity would be questionable. This is just speculation assuming alloy upper rails, and knowing how it all fits together as I've had mine all apart, perhaps they changed other stuff as well.

I believe most of the problem can be fixed with an inner fender design and compound change. The guys who designed this must have been the same who did the cartridge filter air box.


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It's completely alloy, the down tube has a plastic cover that looks like the plastic frame , the same two bolt setup as the plastic. Initially I thought the same. I'll take some pics today.
 
Being I'm stuck with this bike for awhile I'm looking into a solution to catastrophic failure by shortening the inner fender and reinforcing the rear of the subframe rails. The hand holds make things difficult. Problem is without a spare inner I have to plan the mod carefully before I cut, like surgery!

A quick and dirty pre-emptive strike might be to partially cut the inner fender, so it's weaker and snaps off before taking the family with it. And get rid of that pig muffler, or at least shorten it. At least you could ride out then.


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Simmo737 said:
It's completely alloy, the down tube has a plastic cover that looks like the plastic frame , the same two bolt setup as the plastic. Initially I thought the same. I'll take some pics today.
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Do you know where I could buy one?
 
Wan said:
Do you know where I could buy one?
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I would try contacting Motocrosscenter.
The last time I ordered from them they informed me that they can usually get any GG part if you give them a part #.

http://www.motocrosscenter.com/ecommerce/index.php?language=en

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I too have a 2013 300 and my first ride/race resulted in a broken subframe, air box and support fender. It was my first ride. Wasn't even my fault, the seat bolt came loose I fell over in a corner and (ironically) another Gas Gas rider ran into the back of my bike while it was laying on the ground and snapped both sides of the sub frame, took with it the air box and fender support with it. The seat popping off may have contributed. It has taken several weeks to get the parts :(. Very poor distribution... I still dont have the airbox and fender support. Very very disappointing for a brand new bike on the first ride. It was racing, I'm not looking for coverage, but poor design for a race bike and poor parts supply.

I just got the 2 subframe pieces today and the amount of work to remove and transfer the threaded pieces is completely ridiculous!! If you've had to do it, you know what i mean!! Who designed this? They should have used the aluminum subframe. I did try to order one but couldn't.

I've invested in this bike with a number of after market parts, so I will live with it (the engine is great!!!). Chasis (really the subframe - totally sucks) not so much.


Not very happy at all coming from a pretty much bullet proof Husky. Oh we'll... My only option is to enjoy it due to sunk cost, new bike plus new subframe, air box and fender support after one ride :(
 
Yes seems another order will be placed w/ motocrosscenter.I don't even what to know how much this will set me back. By the way I've received my red plastic
from them in 4 days. Sweeet.
 
Did anyone get a price? It's nuts that a dealer in Spain can airfreight them so fast and cheaper than our own chain. I'll bet the thing is crazy $$.


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