britishgas
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best cold weather gear and tips for keeping warm out on the trail please
cold weather gear best options / tricks
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bowhunter007
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"Cold" is a relative term. I'm known to ride in weather well below freezing & worse. Give a description of your worse case scenario. Cold weather leans out your jetting, so keeping your bike happy is just as important.
after many years I would think I have this figured out. I keep trying different things and learning. My response can be qualified on what I know today
neoprene socks. I have never found any boots that keep your feet dry. Finally I broke down and bought some Neoprene socks. Definitely keep my feet dry. My next test to see if some smartwool socks under the neoprene is a good idea of not.
I have owned a Moose XCR jacket for years. I always thought it was ok. Over time I have went to body protector instead of the traditional chest protectors. I actually have 2 body protectors. One for cool weather and one for warmer weather. The magic I have found for cold is layering as follows. Form fitting base layer (Nike cold gear, poly polypropylene underware, smartwool, ....) I then put on my warm weather body armor over the base layer. Next comes my Moose XCR jacket (The XCR has many large zippered vents). If you noticed, I do not use a Jersey. Why do I like this? When I start my ride the coat and zippers are all sealed up and I'm comfortable. Once I start to warm up I open up the zippers on the jacket to control the cooling and the amount I sweat. A jersey would impede the air from getting to the base layer. With the body Armor only air gets to the base layer. If conditions change just zip up. I have used this setup form 20 to 60 degrees f. Depending on the temperature I change the amount of base layer. If it rains the wet surface of the coat is against the plastic of the body armor keeping the moisture from wicking to the base layer. I've actually used a similar set up riding my Mountain bike. In the case it is a high wicking fleece top with the XCR jacket shell.
I like over the boot pants when it is cold. Use a base layer depending on temperature.
I use regular gloves but put on the very large Moose hand protectors (elephant ears).
In my past life I lived in the north and did a lot of snowmobiling. The gear for that keeps you worm no issues. I've used that riding bikes in the snow. I have noticed they sell gear for snow cross racing that looks like it would work well for cold weather biking. Hopefully this tread may have someone who used it and can comment.
I look forward to reading what others are doing.
neoprene socks. I have never found any boots that keep your feet dry. Finally I broke down and bought some Neoprene socks. Definitely keep my feet dry. My next test to see if some smartwool socks under the neoprene is a good idea of not.
I have owned a Moose XCR jacket for years. I always thought it was ok. Over time I have went to body protector instead of the traditional chest protectors. I actually have 2 body protectors. One for cool weather and one for warmer weather. The magic I have found for cold is layering as follows. Form fitting base layer (Nike cold gear, poly polypropylene underware, smartwool, ....) I then put on my warm weather body armor over the base layer. Next comes my Moose XCR jacket (The XCR has many large zippered vents). If you noticed, I do not use a Jersey. Why do I like this? When I start my ride the coat and zippers are all sealed up and I'm comfortable. Once I start to warm up I open up the zippers on the jacket to control the cooling and the amount I sweat. A jersey would impede the air from getting to the base layer. With the body Armor only air gets to the base layer. If conditions change just zip up. I have used this setup form 20 to 60 degrees f. Depending on the temperature I change the amount of base layer. If it rains the wet surface of the coat is against the plastic of the body armor keeping the moisture from wicking to the base layer. I've actually used a similar set up riding my Mountain bike. In the case it is a high wicking fleece top with the XCR jacket shell.
I like over the boot pants when it is cold. Use a base layer depending on temperature.
I use regular gloves but put on the very large Moose hand protectors (elephant ears).
In my past life I lived in the north and did a lot of snowmobiling. The gear for that keeps you worm no issues. I've used that riding bikes in the snow. I have noticed they sell gear for snow cross racing that looks like it would work well for cold weather biking. Hopefully this tread may have someone who used it and can comment.
I look forward to reading what others are doing.
nambo-trev
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I've always just worn under armour and a few layers. I can't wear thick gloves either and don't like being bundled up. Even if it's -15c as long as it's not windy I'm good with my layers and regular riding gear!
bowhunter007
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I'm all about base layers. They keep you warm, & wick moisture away from skin. I swear my feet are radiators(they get hot). I like smartwool socks. Water leaking into my boots helps cool my feet, while the smartwool keeps them from getting cold. I usually just wear a Fox airframe over a windbreaker type jacket. Most winter riding in the Puget Sound region of WA. is done in temps ranging from 35F-45F. Add rain, and you have the perfect storm for hypothermia. Being an avid outdoorsman, I have a large assortment of winter clothing. I give my best guess as to what I'll need, and bring extra in waterproof container in my backpack. Riding Tahuya or Walker Valley only requires a quick loop to the trailhead to change if/when necessary.
erniebearskin
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Similar to Trev, my regular riding gear with an extra layer of fleece and a wind stop jacket. Only other change from summer is bar muffs. good to -15 celsius.
JP4
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We all have different ideas of what cold is. These are my tips for below O degree celsius riding single-track on studded tires.
Always start with a dri-fit layer - my brother is an Adidas bigwig so I've got loads of this gear.
If it's really cold, you need a fleece on top of the dri-fit. Then wrap it all in some type of Gore-Tex shell (or similar fabric) that lets moisture out.
If you're working hard you must vent the moisture your body produces. If not, as soon as you stop working, the moisture makes you cold, real fast.
My biggest problem is with cold hands. If I wear heavy gloves in the single-track and get sweaty, when I stop, cold hands are gonna happen.
I try to keep my hands harm and use light gloves. Here's my set-up for this winter - Big muffs, grip warmers and Royal 'Minus' gloves. Let's hope it works.
Always start with a dri-fit layer - my brother is an Adidas bigwig so I've got loads of this gear.
If it's really cold, you need a fleece on top of the dri-fit. Then wrap it all in some type of Gore-Tex shell (or similar fabric) that lets moisture out.
If you're working hard you must vent the moisture your body produces. If not, as soon as you stop working, the moisture makes you cold, real fast.
My biggest problem is with cold hands. If I wear heavy gloves in the single-track and get sweaty, when I stop, cold hands are gonna happen.
I try to keep my hands harm and use light gloves. Here's my set-up for this winter - Big muffs, grip warmers and Royal 'Minus' gloves. Let's hope it works.
canadianstrom
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cold hands
once my hands get cold , they don't warm back up. I hate thick gloves. I do use muffs but I think I get a bigger effect from the little chemical warmers i put on the back of my hands , in the gloves. I wear the mechanix type gloves and I never notice the size of the warmers once I'm riding. I have also thrown a warmer into each muff trying to warm up the levers; my fingers could immediately feel the cold and I think they helped.
Muffs are dangerous if you get pitched forwards.
Using layers with a jacket that gives some ventilation when needed is the best program I've found. I just have to remember not to over dress so much it leads to being drenched in sweat. My favourite warm layer is a smart wool sweater.
once my hands get cold , they don't warm back up. I hate thick gloves. I do use muffs but I think I get a bigger effect from the little chemical warmers i put on the back of my hands , in the gloves. I wear the mechanix type gloves and I never notice the size of the warmers once I'm riding. I have also thrown a warmer into each muff trying to warm up the levers; my fingers could immediately feel the cold and I think they helped.
Muffs are dangerous if you get pitched forwards.
Using layers with a jacket that gives some ventilation when needed is the best program I've found. I just have to remember not to over dress so much it leads to being drenched in sweat. My favourite warm layer is a smart wool sweater.
Coop
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As a hunter I learned years ago base layers are key. Avoid anything cotton; it gets wet from sweat, stays wet, and has zero insulating qualities when it is wet.
After that it seems my hands and feet are always problem areas. I have a pair of the same muffs JP4 posted. Got them at the local ATV shop cheap. They are ugly but help a lot. I put grip heaters on all my street and dual sport bikes but never have on my dirtbikes. Not sure why.
I found if I use those stick on toe warmers made by Hothands my feet stay pretty warm unless I ride more then 3 hours, which I usually don't in the winter time.
After that it seems my hands and feet are always problem areas. I have a pair of the same muffs JP4 posted. Got them at the local ATV shop cheap. They are ugly but help a lot. I put grip heaters on all my street and dual sport bikes but never have on my dirtbikes. Not sure why.
I found if I use those stick on toe warmers made by Hothands my feet stay pretty warm unless I ride more then 3 hours, which I usually don't in the winter time.
adv rider
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cold weather
How many of you are using the the type of grip heaters pictured? I have been considering these. I run them on street bikes,so I know they work good.
Any issues running them with only stator power?no battery.
Along with elephant ears,should keep hands somewhat warm.
How many of you are using the the type of grip heaters pictured? I have been considering these. I run them on street bikes,so I know they work good.
Any issues running them with only stator power?no battery.
Along with elephant ears,should keep hands somewhat warm.
modette
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Yeah cold weather is a relative deal, it's been -10 here in Colorado springs...no one is out riding right now....LOL Not even me and I ride in the winter.
http://youtu.be/O6Ed-f2w7II
I layer for trail riding. Real cold I wear my long underwear, Eddie Bauer Flannel pants under my Klim pants. I for go the Sidi boots, and wear some insulated outdoors boot made for winter with a good thick sock. For upper body I wear T-shirt, long sleeve shirt, maybe even another long sleeve sweeter type shirt and the Cortech Jacket and as seen in the video I wear my ski gloves, turtle neck and full face helmet.
http://youtu.be/tr34XIOGiwc
http://youtu.be/O6Ed-f2w7II
I layer for trail riding. Real cold I wear my long underwear, Eddie Bauer Flannel pants under my Klim pants. I for go the Sidi boots, and wear some insulated outdoors boot made for winter with a good thick sock. For upper body I wear T-shirt, long sleeve shirt, maybe even another long sleeve sweeter type shirt and the Cortech Jacket and as seen in the video I wear my ski gloves, turtle neck and full face helmet.
http://youtu.be/tr34XIOGiwc
GasGas
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Where's your studded tires man?
nambo-trev
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You gotta find some tight single track in the snow, that's where the gnarlyness lies!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JPYape2N9XU#
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8FTIb6Xyxhg#
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JPYape2N9XU#
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8FTIb6Xyxhg#
JP4
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I'm on my second set of these type of grip warmers on a batteryless bike, and no issuses at all. I got about 2 years out of the first set and then the wires on the throttle side broke off at the grip. For $30 a pair I'm ok with replacing them every couple of years.
Caravan Monster
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For trail riding in the UK, it's about keeping the damp out - it doesn't get as cold over here. Army surplus is a good budget option. Army goretex over socks <?10 (like sealskins, but fraction of the price) Army goretex overtrousers that go over boots and have braces to stop them falling down when riding <?30. Helly Hansen wicking under layers are good, but it rarely gets cold enough to need them. I wear a helly hansen fleece jacket if it's really cold and / or one of those cheap alpinestars waterproof tops if rains a lot (bit sweaty). Carry spare pairs of gloves in case they get soaked. Can you still get those lined scott gloves ? - they're excellent. It's good to carry a warm woollen hat to keep body heat from escaping if you have to stop to repair a bike. Don't dress too warm - I've seen people wearing very heavy winter road bike clothing overheat with the exertion of riding on the trails.
bukwheat
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Here in Alabama it doesn't get to the extreme cold a lot of you guys have to deal with.
I have the grip heaters like is pictured and they work great. I hate to have cold hands and feet. With the grip heaters, I can wear normal MX gloves and my hands stay comfy. For my feet, I stick the "Toe Warmers" in each boot and that keeps my toes happy. Body wise, I have a MS Goretex enduro jacket from the 90's that works very well, still....its got sleeve and back vents if it gets too warm.
I have the grip heaters like is pictured and they work great. I hate to have cold hands and feet. With the grip heaters, I can wear normal MX gloves and my hands stay comfy. For my feet, I stick the "Toe Warmers" in each boot and that keeps my toes happy. Body wise, I have a MS Goretex enduro jacket from the 90's that works very well, still....its got sleeve and back vents if it gets too warm.
britishgas
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thanks for the replys, i have bought some of those grip heaters ,they work great ,
robszombie
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I use Fox polarpaw, but carry a regular set of gloves for when my hands warm up. This also usually keeps them dry too for the afternoon/evening ride home when you're tired etc...........
