Flat tires, how unlucky are you ?

poelinca

poelinca

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I had 1 flat tire when i got the bike to it's maiden ride.
I had 3 flat tires, two weeks later (this last weekend).
Getting the bike ready for the weekend to come, what do you think i notice ? Yes, another flat tire :mad:

I have gotten so depressed, i don't even feel like changing the oil anymore.

I suppose mouse should be on order very very soon.
 
On my new Sherco I rode it once then got two flats in a row. I put in a mousse for the fourth ride :D

Can you get tube saddles in Romania? My friends are having good luck with them.
 
You need to know why your tires are flat.

A nail is a lucky/unlucky thing but if a spoke tip bit the chamber, it's a thing that was to be fixed.
 
Leo said:
You need to know why your tires are flat.

A nail is a lucky/unlucky thing but if a spoke tip bit the chamber, it's a thing that was to be fixed.
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True a thorn stuck in the tire will continue to flatten tubes until removed. I always pull the tube inflate it to find the hole and lay it on the tire/rim and do a inspection. I also use Ultra heave duty tubes been using these for a couple years now https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/...ty-Motorcycle-Tube?term=ultra heavy duty tube
 
The pinches are on the outside of the tube, i pulled a few thorns out of the tires right now.

Tube saddles yes, i think i'll be able to order some. But not sure if i should spend the money on them.

I'll install mouse on the back this weekend, and fix the front at a tire shop on the way to the trails or maybe tomorrow if i have the time. I'll be riding in a different area, so i might get lucky not to catch so many thorns.
If the front keeps messing around i'll order a super heavy duty tube, 4mm thick and try my luck with it till next month when i might get the cash to order a front mouse (even though i heard horror stories with mouse on the front, i don't really want to go that route).
 
Mousse in the front and Tubliss in the rear has been my magic combo. I love the Tubliss in the rear because I can adjust pressure. And if I do get a flat I can finish the ride or stop and plug it then re inflate with a small co2 air pump I carry


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memphis2857 said:
Mousse in the front and Tubliss in the rear has been my magic combo. I love the Tubliss in the rear because I can adjust pressure. And if I do get a flat I can finish the ride or stop and plug it then re inflate with a small co2 air pump I carry


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Same here, no thorns where I live, just pinch flats. Tube Saddles are a 1/3 the price of a mousse and by all accounts help greatly with pinches. No help at all with thorns though.
 
Most bikes come standard with very thin tubes. I normally only get a few rides out of oem tubes then I fit Tubliss and slime (especially for thorny areas).
I have been using Tubliss since 2006 and can count the number of times I have had a puncture and mostly I have only discoverd that I had a puncture when I loaded the bike at the end of the ride

I once sliced a knob off the rear tyre and used a bunch of 5 plugs to plug it and that lasted about 15km and I did the remaining 40km of rough rocks with a flat rear at 90% of my normal speed

Also unlike a mousse it lasts for years and can be transferred from bike to bike
 
What we have found in 35 years of riding.

Mousse and tubliss aside.
Which we do not use.Thats a seperate convo.

We use high quality standard rubber tubes.
A high quality tube will be a little heavier duty and have more stretch, then a cheapo.
We DO NOT use heavy duty tubes.
They may be thicker rubber but they have less stretch and pliability, elasticity whatever.
They also get crease memory lines.Like stretch marks.

Clean rubber inner casing, make your own spoke straps.Its easy.
Use baby powder on the tube.

No water, no soap, none of that crap, ever.
And do not break the casing.Even tiny tears will cause flats.
 
gasgasxc said:
What we have found in 35 years of riding.

Mousse and tubliss aside.
Which we do not use.Thats a seperate convo.

We use high quality standard rubber tubes.
A high quality tube will be a little heavier duty and have more stretch, then a cheapo.
We DO NOT use heavy duty tubes.
They may be thicker rubber but they have less stretch and pliability, elasticity whatever.
They also get crease memory lines.Like stretch marks.

Clean rubber inner casing, make your own spoke straps.Its easy.
Use baby powder on the tube.

No water, no soap, none of that crap, ever.
And do not break the casing.Even tiny tears will cause flats.
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What do you mean by "high quality standard tubes" ?

p.s. i just ordered heavy duty tube for the front, will install it tomorrow and hope for the best (will check again for any thorns in the front before install)
 
Last tube I had let go on a seam. Was bloody odd. Charged a hill, failed half way, rolled back down with a flat tyre.

Pulled the tube on the trail and it had started to let go around the tube (as opposed to along). Mate grabbed and pulled and it cleanly tore all the way around the seam.

Like others have said. It pays to spend a little time investigating and confirming the cause of the flat or it can end up in a cycle of replacing tubes.
 
poelinca said:
What do you mean by "high quality standard tubes" ?

p.s. i just ordered heavy duty tube for the front, will install it tomorrow and hope for the best (will check again for any thorns in the front before install)
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Bridgestone-Michelin-IRC

If you are riding in an area where you are actually puncturing the casing of the tire with gnarly thornsor whatever, and penetrating through it.No tube is going to help you.

Standard quality tubes are superior over heavy duty tubes.
They absorb the blows better.
If you are pinching tubes, then its installer error.
 
I use heavy duty tubes, baby powder the inside of the tire and duct tape my rims. I never get pinch flats. Ever. I had a flat at an mx race one time when I broke a rim lock and pulled the stem out of the tube. I believe most flats are due to installer error. Quality tire irons are also important. You can't go wrong with the Michelin type irons or good quality spoons. many of the cheaper spoons on the market are poorly shaped and or have sharp edges. Motion Pro has nice spoons. Hebo used to sell stubby tire irons that are awesome for your tool pack.
 
GasGas said:
I use heavy duty tubes, baby powder the inside of the tire and duct tape my rims. I never get pinch flats. Ever. I had a flat at an mx race one time when I broke a rim lock and pulled the stem out of the tube. I believe most flats are due to installer error. Quality tire irons are also important. You can't go wrong with the Michelin type irons or good quality spoons. many of the cheaper spoons on the market are poorly shaped and or have sharp edges. Motion Pro has nice spoons. Hebo used to sell stubby tire irons that are awesome for your tool pack.
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Yes, if i decide not to go with mousse/tubliss up front, i will go an buy good tire irons. That's next month to decide, hopefully i'll be fine with the heavy duty kenda tube till then.

I will also aviod the area where i got the most thorns from, but other than that there is not much else i can do at the moment.
 
I've used HD tubes for years, always installed with baby powder. I use the nice Motion-pro aluminum spoon/axle wrench combos.

Only ever had 3 flats; 2 from hitting sharp rocks at speed, one because the valve stem separated from the tube. It turned out that tube was worn out anyways...., but it cost me a good finish at a local enduro.
 
gasgasxc said:
Bridgestone-Michelin-IRC

If you are riding in an area where you are actually puncturing the casing of the tire with gnarly thornsor whatever, and penetrating through it.No tube is going to help you.

Standard quality tubes are superior over heavy duty tubes.
They absorb the blows better.
If you are pinching tubes, then its installer error.
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If you are riding with tubes in thorny areas I woul add slime. I used to do this before I move on to superior technology ;-)

The first time I used slime the tube had almost fused/stapled itself to the tire from all the holes and thorns sticking through
 
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