Future GasGas 4 stroke?

[Jetster220]

I remember when Torrot took over there was talk of a some new GasGas thumpers eventually. Any word on those? Would really like to see a 350.

 

[john r b]

2020??,but by then Electric's will have more of a presents.

 

[CDN Rick]

I remember when Torrot took over there was talk of a some new GasGas thumpers eventually. Any word on those? Would really like to see a 350.

EICMA is in a month and a half. If it is a 2019 release it will be uncovered there. But if I had to put my money down on something it would probably be on a 2020 Model Year release at the 2019 EICMA.

For good reasons I do expect to see something exciting at EICMA this year, but I'm not quite sure what it is.

 

[(F5)]

Ahh. Well if it's Exciting, it won't be a foul stroke.

 

[thumperrider1]

2020??,but by then Electric's will have more of a presents.

Saw someone racing an ALTA at the NEPG Enduro. At the gas stop he had to pull a fresh ALTA out of the van to continue on with the race..............which isn't legal. Electric will need to have a FAST way to swap batteries or be able to go for 4-5hrs at a time. Neither is possible right now.

 

[ScottyR]

GasGas needs a couple of 4 strokes to fill out their line up. There are only so many buyers for 250/300 2 strokes.

 

[AZRickD]

The next big jump in batteries (full adoption of Lithium-Graphene battery technology) will go a long way towards that end.

And... Alta needs a quick change battery.

How many miles/hours were the getting at race pace?

 

[CDN Rick]

The next big jump in batteries (full adoption of Lithium-Graphene battery technology) will go a long way towards that end.

And... Alta needs a quick change battery.

How many miles/hours were the getting at race pace?

Can't be much.. I saw a guy hour out at the second gas stop here at an Offroad Ontario race trying to charge his battery on a generator....

 

[AZRickD]

That?s a good indicator. How far to the 2nd gas stop?

Did he get there on one battery?

 

[memphis2857]

It was 30 miles


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[gasgasman]

Local AA rider I ride with, can only go 24 miles on his. That's in setting 2.
He needs a 4000w inverter generator to charge it.

 

[AZRickD]

That?s not horrible.

Lithium-graphene batteries would double that and increase charge cycle counts by 50%. And other benefits.

 

[gasgasman]

Not really.
I don't know if you remember that "balloon loop" we rode- way back when.
It's 28 miles. He can't make it at race pace.

 

[pscook]

Not really.
I don't know if you remember that "balloon loop" we rode- way back when.
It's 28 miles. He can't make it at race pace.

Which model and battery pack does he have? The new battery pack has more capacity than the previous versions. And I agree that the newer Lithium-Graphene batteries should help out (charging and capacity), assuming that the technology lives up to the expectations.

 

[gasgasman]

Redshift MX.
I think the 5.6 battery.
Alta told him the batteries are the same. Just software different on the new models.

 

[AZRickD]

Annnnd, Lithium-Graphene batteries are much less prone to common failures of all types (breaking, fire).

The addition of graphene layers cures all sorts of ills. Battery types that are known to be high capacity but low discharge rate will have much better discharge rates. Batteries with good discharge rates but low capacity... guess what? It fixes that too.

Wasn?t this a 4-stroke thread??

 

[Neil E.]

Nah, who wants a 4T? Not me, but there are long distance riders who will.

I've been eyeing the Alta as a possible next bike, but I'd be much happier buying an electric powered GG enduro with KYB suspension.

The next improvement in battery technology should provide enough range for my needs.

 

[CDN Rick]

That?s a good indicator. How far to the 2nd gas stop?

Did he get there on one battery?

about 80km's or so.. He did a 15 minute charge at the first gas stop, and was falling off pace because of the difficulty of the terrain, and then fell further off at the second gas stop and houred out.

 

[CDN Rick]

Nah, who wants a 4T? Not me, but there are long distance riders who will.

I've been eyeing the Alta as a possible next bike, but I'd be much happier buying an electric powered GG enduro with KYB suspension.

The next improvement in battery technology should provide enough range for my needs.

So I'm going on a ride this weekend. We do 3 days, approx 90-100miles each day, Basically about 50 to a gas station, then 50 back or so..
We're buried in the bush, no electricity, and no generators...

Even if we brought generators we'd need a minimum 50 mile range to find someone who has a generator to recharge at a lunch stop or something, then be able to ride back to keep doing our favourite loops.

Or realistically a bike with a minimum 100 mile range to be safe... When bikes can hit 120 miles or so to a charge and have a 1/2 hour recharge time, I'll start looking at them...

the Dacre Rally is 350-400 miles in one day for my class, Gonna be a long time before I can run that on an e-bike.

I just can't see switching anytime soon. Not for what I do with my bike...
I know I'm asking the world, But my two stroke with an IMS tank is perfect, and gas stations are plentiful and cheap.

 

[AZRickD]

It can do that range (common lithium-ion tech) in street clothes where dolks are used to bikes that are 100 poinds heavier (that would be 100 pounds of batteries).