GasGas Rally bike

[gasgasman]

Check out GasGas' new rally bike.

http://www.enduro21.com/index.php/enduro21/item/647-first-look-%E2%80%93-gas-gas-ec-raid-dakar-rally

 

[jostby]

that's my kind of dual-sport!

 

[ScottyR]

I think the biggest question is "why?".

 

[gasgasman]

Must be a Euro thing that North Americans can't understand.

 

[socalgasgas]

We don't understand because we have to many land restrictions to have a race requiring a bike like that in this country. Back east thier's to many people and out west we have Turtles,the Milk Weed,Kangaro Rat and so on and so on.

 

[Elvis74]

We don't understand because we have to many land restrictions to have a race requiring a bike like that in this country. Back east thier's to many people and out west we have Turtles,the Milk Weed,Kangaro Rat and so on and so on.

looks like socal is like Germany
on every edge another animal....

 

[Cruiser]

I like it.. need a bit more clearance on the front fender or it will pack solid.. The rally bike races they do over in the other countries is rather neat.. would be a nightmare to try to put one on here. But then again.. I enjoyed seeing the WEC when it came to NY a few years back, wish it was a regular thing.

 

[desertgasser300]

We don't understand because we have to many land restrictions to have a race requiring a bike like that in this country. Back east thier's to many people and out west we have Turtles,the Milk Weed,Kangaro Rat and so on and so on.

It would be nice to make all the enviro jerks disappear. Watching the news the other day and a new and endangered cactus was discovered in AZ. went on to say the OHV Parks will be re-evaluated now. That cactus they showed was the size of a normal thumb nail.
We will never have any large races out west. I'm waiting for them to shut down the king of the motos

 

[Todd5774]

I think the biggest question is "why?".

Because it makes marketing sense..

The Dakar and rally raids in general are huge over here in Europe, you have a bike that finishes the Dakar, will make the Europeans take notice of the brand, and then buy a bike the Dakar is mainstream media over here.

 

[gasgasman]

 

[Elvis74]

sweet bike

 

[jgas]

If that engine is counterbalanced I think it would make a great DS/ADV bike for N. America. Unfortunately we will probably never see it. It sure looks great.

As for the enviro-nazis, the only way we will ever be able to fight them is if we join together and organize. A few yrs ago a buddy and I tried to start a singletrack oriented organization called Singletrack Planet. We started it with a small budget and hoped for enough donations to build it, but didn't get enough. We had offers of labor and web help, but what we needed was money.

To even start a non-profit it really takes about 15 grand to build a website, incorporate, advertise, and begin to build enough membership to spread the word of the org. We only had about 5 grand, but we tried.

The enviro-crazies get huge donations from people who live in cities and never even venture into the great outdoors like we do, but they will still donate huge sums of money for something they don't even take the time to enjoy. It's a strange attitude to me, but that's reality.

Maybe if the bike manufacturers would market more do-it-all bikes like this it would get more city folks into the boonies who would realize that you can recreate off road with a motor and still protect the environment? Most GG guys and girls ride singletrack and race or at least ride the smaller lighter racier bikes. I for one would love to have a bike like this Rally bike that I could truly do it all on. I use my old DRZ for that now, but it is a dated design, although I think it's the best DS type bike there is for overall use.

If GG and KTM would simply market bikes like these in N. America I think they would sell to commuter bikers, DS bikers, Rally bikers, ADV bikers, etc. If Suzuki would put Dakar style fairings and better seats/controls/GPS/etc on a DRZ and sell it for a decent price I think they would sell zillions of em, and it just might appeal to some of the people using KLRs, bicycles, Jeeps/4x4s, and foot power to go off road now.

Anyway, it couldn't hurt.

 

[rosco]

You just need to sue the govt. like the crazy wacked out enviro groups do. Thats how most of these groups got so big. They can bring law suit against the govt. over any little thing they choose. If they loose its no skin off their butt and if they win, well theirs another 100 grand or so to build their club even stronger.

 

[Todd5774]

You can order it at your gasgas dealer in Europe for 16,000 euros plus vat....

Then wait 6 weeks then ride!


Pretty good deal being as the ktm 450 rallye customer version will cost 48,000 euros plus vat!,

 

[Todd5774]

You missed these pics...

 

[Todd5774]

And this one!

 

[Todd5774]

And a little video of her in action!

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?featur...=/watch?v=gjBpykNr2Ao&feature=player_embedded

 

[gasgasman]

You missed these pics...

Can she change a Bib Mousse as quick as Lulu?

 

[Todd5774]

Some technical details of the GG dakar replica / package, as translated from here (it's in Greek)

Gas Gas 450 Replica

449 displacement
5 valves, DOHC
5 speed gearbox
Magura hydraulic clutch
Keihin FCR-MX 39 carb
Magura Shiver 48mm closed cartridge forks (seems like the Ohlins TTX is for the factory riders, damn)
Ohlins 888 rear shock
Galfer 260mm front brake rotor (plus extra 300mm disc with longer caliper bracket), Nissin 2 pot caliper

20L rear subframe / tank
6L +6L front tanks
weight, dry: 123.4kg
seat height 940mm
Carbon fibre air box
skid plate with toolbox + water reservoir
included: Road book holder (doesn't say which), Gas Gas multi-instrument (I think a Vector) plus 1 ICO computer
rear cush drive hub



DAKAR SUPPORT PACKAGE

1 mechanic per 2 bikes for the whole race
Team manager for logistics
T4 truck, that can carry small parts per rider (up to 10kg)
T5 truck carrying sleeping equipment, 1 large bag per rider (tent), 1 spare engine
Transport of bikes form Epsilon HQ to Le Havre
Bike rental option, Gas Gas 450F Rally Raid


PRICES

Gas Gas 450F Rally Raid rental option for Dakar 2013 ?11000
Support package ?15000
BIke price (after the rally) ?5500

 

[roostafish]

Some technical details of the GG dakar replica / package, as translated from here (it's in Greek)

Gas Gas 450 Replica

449 displacement
5 valves, DOHC
5 speed gearbox
Magura hydraulic clutch
Keihin FCR-MX 39 carb
Magura Shiver 48mm closed cartridge forks (seems like the Ohlins TTX is for the factory riders, damn)
Ohlins 888 rear shock
Galfer 260mm front brake rotor (plus extra 300mm disc with longer caliper bracket), Nissin 2 pot caliper

20L rear subframe / tank
6L +6L front tanks
weight, dry: 123.4kg
seat height 940mm
Carbon fibre air box
skid plate with toolbox + water reservoir
included: Road book holder (doesn't say which), Gas Gas multi-instrument (I think a Vector) plus 1 ICO computer
rear cush drive hub



DAKAR SUPPORT PACKAGE

1 mechanic per 2 bikes for the whole race
Team manager for logistics
T4 truck, that can carry small parts per rider (up to 10kg)
T5 truck carrying sleeping equipment, 1 large bag per rider (tent), 1 spare engine
Transport of bikes form Epsilon HQ to Le Havre
Bike rental option, Gas Gas 450F Rally Raid


PRICES

Gas Gas 450F Rally Raid rental option for Dakar 2013 ?11000
Support package ?15000
BIke price (after the rally) ?5500

That really is a bargain for a bike and support for the Rally. I suppose if you can afford the $100,000 entry fee you can probably come up with any plan you choose, but that is a good price.