KTM visits Gas Gas factory

The Pampera and the Sherco X are night and day .You can barely talk about them in the same convo they are light years apart in design and technology.
Concept they share ideas but 20 year old thinking with todays advances in the crossover realm is mute.

Pampera is a legit U.S. DOT street legal import legal to plate in all 50 states.
So its heavy(frame gussetting required for on road use, mostly in the neck)
Its detuned to a degree and its got all the factory street legal crap on it.
Its more of a street bike you can play ride with then a playride-freeride-motherinlaw
ride that you can ride on the street, maybe in some states.

No comparison.
Not that anybody was.
 
Wow - how did this thread get off in this direction?

The pampera has the older trials motor in a small enduro like frame. Light duty and not good to be ridden fast and hard - it will break... not all that heavy.

So when the previous person said they were more suited to a trials rider - I think that was his point - it has trials motor and smaller brakes, etc. The older pampera models (versus the newer ones) were popular here in the NW with a few guys as extreme trail bikes. Same deal - trials motor with a real seat to sit on. Small and light with a big enough fuel tank to get you somewhere, and back again...

Jeff
 
Sounds like KDX 200 people.
Apparently to many in the Northwest, the KDX 200 is the ultimate woods racing machine.
Me excluded.
 
webmaster said:
Wow - how did this thread get off in this direction?

The pampera has the older trials motor in a small enduro like frame. Light duty and not good to be ridden fast and hard - it will break... not all that heavy.

So when the previous person said they were more suited to a trials rider - I think that was his point - it has trials motor and smaller brakes, etc. The older pampera models (versus the newer ones) were popular here in the NW with a few guys as extreme trail bikes. Same deal - trials motor with a real seat to sit on. Small and light with a big enough fuel tank to get you somewhere, and back again...

Jeff
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Bit like the ol' Yammy TY250's. There were heaps about when I was a teenager.They only had a top speed of about 70kph but you could still ride them to work. Then on a Sunday you would go find a hill or gully and have some serious fun for a few hours.
 
No more info. Just someone said it to me.

Sherco has 2 factoryes. Why not moving to one single place?
 
Leo said:
No more info. Just someone said it to me.

Sherco has 2 factoryes. Why not moving to one single place?
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Trials from Spain and enduro from France.
IMHO the French side seems more interested in advancement and development, the Spanish seems happy to change the stickers and call it a new bike.
 
Sherco's Marc Tessier spoke a bit about purchasing gas gas in a magazine article posted to the Sherco Brasil facebook. Case closed on that one.

https://www.facebook.com/ShercoBrasil/posts/920276378011645

I'm not considering options to invest in Gas Gas right now. It's a complicated administrative situation, which isn't clear. From the information I have the company is looking for an investor that could possibly renegotiate the debt - someone that'll pay around 10 of the 40 million Euro of the total debt to take over. I'm not interested in paying a debt to acquire Gas Gas. When Gas Gas reaches the point they're ready to sell bikes, then I'll look into it. But for the moment I'm not interested.
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