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Bobt250
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I'm not saying I necessarily believe the video but did you watch it?
The premise seems sound. It's water base and it lets water in.
Oil repels water.
I don't know and I don't really care. I've been riding 41 years and I put motor oil on my filters and clean them with gasoline.
I'm old school and low tech. I've never worn out an engine and never had an engine failure of any kind.
The premise seems sound. It's water base and it lets water in.
Oil repels water.
I don't know and I don't really care. I've been riding 41 years and I put motor oil on my filters and clean them with gasoline.
I'm old school and low tech. I've never worn out an engine and never had an engine failure of any kind.
swazi_matt
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I use no-toil and have seen the video, and i think that with the engine off, the oil filter may let a lot less water through (think the helps keep bubbles on the foam so not letting water through), but if the bike is running it will make no diff.
GMP
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Like what was said, if the engine is running it will suck any water that is beaded up, or has soaked into the foam, into the motor.
The No-Toil oil is not water soluble, try and wash a filter in plain water if you doubt this, or wash your hands after oiling it. Its sticky messy stuff without the oxy-clean. The carrier is alcohol and the oil itself is broken down with oxy-clean. Its thinner on application and really needs to be shaken well. If dried completely before installation it will not pool in the foam. This is where the naysayers screw up. I use an old hairdrier for this, just dry the filter until you no longer smell the alchohol carrier and your good to go, takrs a couple minutes.
If that new airbox is internally channeled like I think it is, the filter will be more isolated from splash water entering the top than a traditional airbox. Its also easy to see how they would get a large still air volume on the clean side.
The No-Toil oil is not water soluble, try and wash a filter in plain water if you doubt this, or wash your hands after oiling it. Its sticky messy stuff without the oxy-clean. The carrier is alcohol and the oil itself is broken down with oxy-clean. Its thinner on application and really needs to be shaken well. If dried completely before installation it will not pool in the foam. This is where the naysayers screw up. I use an old hairdrier for this, just dry the filter until you no longer smell the alchohol carrier and your good to go, takrs a couple minutes.
If that new airbox is internally channeled like I think it is, the filter will be more isolated from splash water entering the top than a traditional airbox. Its also easy to see how they would get a large still air volume on the clean side.
Clay
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If you don't need a big open hole to put the air filter in place, it should be much easier to seal and baffle the box. Keeping the airboot clean when changing the filter and using a system that does not allow water in the carb is basic Motorcycle Design 101. I trust that they will have thought of all of these issues. They're pretty smart guys.
Gas
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Basically, any place air can go, water can go. Small amounts of clean water won't hurt your engine. If your filter / oil combo will take the dirt the water isn't a big issue, other than a little miss until it cleans out.
The large volume still air area under the filter should make the bike respond and run as well as anything out there, provided the upper portion of the box isn't overly baffled to the point it causes a large negative pressure under filter when the slide pops open.
These are all basic design items that they have surely looked into during development. They would become obvious in the first testing of the new airbox.
And by the sound of the bike Ivan is riding in the video there isn't an issue here.
The large volume still air area under the filter should make the bike respond and run as well as anything out there, provided the upper portion of the box isn't overly baffled to the point it causes a large negative pressure under filter when the slide pops open.
These are all basic design items that they have surely looked into during development. They would become obvious in the first testing of the new airbox.
And by the sound of the bike Ivan is riding in the video there isn't an issue here.
wence
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That is what you would assume, with the slide in cassette mounted on the dirty side of the baffle so that dirt drops down to the drain and cannot get into the clean side. It may even be offset into the dirty side ?
Cheers Mark
P.s. The forks are better mate, cheers for the help
Cheers Mark
P.s. The forks are better mate, cheers for the help
Clay
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